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		<title>By: Commentor Unnamed</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/07/11/political-ethics-conundrum/#comment-110371</link>
		<dc:creator>Commentor Unnamed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The part about police and throw-downs is definitely true. I attend the local gun show regularly, and in this state it is perfectly legal for private individuals to sell used handguns face to face without paperwork. I was standing directly behind two cops once who were checking out some legal no-paperwork handguns and quite clearly heard one say "this would make a great throwdown" to the other, who then noticed me and started hissing "shut up, shut up!".&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The part about police and throw-downs is definitely true. I attend the local gun show regularly, and in this state it is perfectly legal for private individuals to sell used handguns face to face without paperwork. I was standing directly behind two cops once who were checking out some legal no-paperwork handguns and quite clearly heard one say &#8220;this would make a great throwdown&#8221; to the other, who then noticed me and started hissing &#8220;shut up, shut up!&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/07/11/political-ethics-conundrum/#comment-110365</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jean, thanks for the plug for Feeling Your Pain.

On Clinton wearing a condom - if it was of the same caliber that Jocelyn Elders passed out as freebies to Arkansas school students when she was Arkansas's @Surgeon General under Gov. Clinton, the condom would be breathable --  sine Elders was famous for having distributing defective condoms.

That is the kind of thing that can give young people a bad opinion of government benevolence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jean, thanks for the plug for Feeling Your Pain.</p>
<p>On Clinton wearing a condom - if it was of the same caliber that Jocelyn Elders passed out as freebies to Arkansas school students when she was Arkansas&#8217;s @Surgeon General under Gov. Clinton, the condom would be breathable &#8212;  sine Elders was famous for having distributing defective condoms.</p>
<p>That is the kind of thing that can give young people a bad opinion of government benevolence.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/07/11/political-ethics-conundrum/#comment-110355</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim
I was listening to Mike Gallagher's show last week, and he was speaking on this issue.  And you guessed it, Bill Clinton was mentioned.  You know, I was never a fan of bubba, and I know you wrote an entire book, and owe a great deal of thanks to bubba for your increase in your personal assets during the 90's.  
You know, I read recently that the Democrats are proposing a Cabinet Dept of Peace. 
I think we should have a Dept of Sex, with Bubba as Sec, and as we have the Surgeon General wearing a Navy uniform, I would suggest that Bubba wears a Condom.  (As a side note, his assistant would be Josie Elders.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim<br />
I was listening to Mike Gallagher&#8217;s show last week, and he was speaking on this issue.  And you guessed it, Bill Clinton was mentioned.  You know, I was never a fan of bubba, and I know you wrote an entire book, and owe a great deal of thanks to bubba for your increase in your personal assets during the 90&#8217;s.<br />
You know, I read recently that the Democrats are proposing a Cabinet Dept of Peace.<br />
I think we should have a Dept of Sex, with Bubba as Sec, and as we have the Surgeon General wearing a Navy uniform, I would suggest that Bubba wears a Condom.  (As a side note, his assistant would be Josie Elders.)</p>
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		<title>By: Lawhobbit</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/07/11/political-ethics-conundrum/#comment-110329</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawhobbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another unanswered question at the moment - were the congresscritters receiving professional courtesy discounts?  Same trade group, after all.

PS:  Attorneys charge depending on geography and service.  I'm out in the woods of the Pacific NW.  Civil stuff gets billed at about $155 an hour, my public defense work has been averaging $75 an hour, but there are PD attorneys billing only forty bucks an hour.  Moving to the Big City down the street would probably bump my civil rates up to two hundred.  With larger firms you start getting close to the three hundred mark, for senior partners in their areas of expertise.

Costs in places like LA, Chicago, NY, or DC are considerably higher, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another unanswered question at the moment - were the congresscritters receiving professional courtesy discounts?  Same trade group, after all.</p>
<p>PS:  Attorneys charge depending on geography and service.  I&#8217;m out in the woods of the Pacific NW.  Civil stuff gets billed at about $155 an hour, my public defense work has been averaging $75 an hour, but there are PD attorneys billing only forty bucks an hour.  Moving to the Big City down the street would probably bump my civil rates up to two hundred.  With larger firms you start getting close to the three hundred mark, for senior partners in their areas of expertise.</p>
<p>Costs in places like LA, Chicago, NY, or DC are considerably higher, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: americanintifada</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/07/11/political-ethics-conundrum/#comment-110312</link>
		<dc:creator>americanintifada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our tax dollars truly hard at work! Isn't 300 an hour what attorneys charge nowadays? I should have stayed in law school, but I wanted to have a clear enough conscience to be able to sleep at night. Oh well, as my pappy always used to say "The only good union is a sexual union, the only good version is a perversion and the only good job is a blow job!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our tax dollars truly hard at work! Isn&#8217;t 300 an hour what attorneys charge nowadays? I should have stayed in law school, but I wanted to have a clear enough conscience to be able to sleep at night. Oh well, as my pappy always used to say &#8220;The only good union is a sexual union, the only good version is a perversion and the only good job is a blow job!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/07/11/political-ethics-conundrum/#comment-110308</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom - maybe this would explain Vitter's slavishly pro-Bush voting record.

Lyndon Johnson was famous  for saying "I've got his pecker in my pocket" - referring to some senator who would never disobey his commands. 

Maybe that's why Cheney is so anxious to avoid any audit of his personal file boxes - he might have half the Republicans on Capitol Hill thereabouts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom - maybe this would explain Vitter&#8217;s slavishly pro-Bush voting record.</p>
<p>Lyndon Johnson was famous  for saying &#8220;I&#8217;ve got his pecker in my pocket&#8221; - referring to some senator who would never disobey his commands. </p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s why Cheney is so anxious to avoid any audit of his personal file boxes - he might have half the Republicans on Capitol Hill thereabouts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was puzzled that congressmen did not simply rely on interns on this.

On the other hand, perhaps no one in Washington has forgotten the lesson of '98 --   Never get serviced by someone who wants to lecture you about federal education policy while working the polling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was puzzled that congressmen did not simply rely on interns on this.</p>
<p>On the other hand, perhaps no one in Washington has forgotten the lesson of &#8216;98 &#8212;   Never get serviced by someone who wants to lecture you about federal education policy while working the polling.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk W. Sabin</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/07/11/political-ethics-conundrum/#comment-110306</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirk W. Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is news?.....gee, I always thought that Washington was a kind of Pimp-Fest anyhow. The fact that there is a Prostitute servicing the Political Class is about as remarkable a piece of news as recognizing some flys hovering over the methane vent of a Holstein.

Actually, what would be a shocking development is to see an announcement that claims 100% proof of the lack of brothels in any location where power and money flow. Call me jaded.

While it is a slim pleasure to watch one of these sanctimonious wankers get a good dose of their own medicine, I'd rather watch a couple politicians get stoked over the decision of the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals of a few days ago that said because the NSA spying was "secret".....then nobody could actually confirm their status as injured or an aggrieved. Don't Ask, Don't tell, we presume. This....now this would be remarkable news if somebody, anybody.....anyone... actually said anything about what must be a turning point for the lapsed Republic , based upon this sorry decision. There aint no Conservatives and there aint no liberals no more, theres just a giant monolith called Lifestyle Statism and the public, to quote Mencken , "is gettin it good and hard".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is news?&#8230;..gee, I always thought that Washington was a kind of Pimp-Fest anyhow. The fact that there is a Prostitute servicing the Political Class is about as remarkable a piece of news as recognizing some flys hovering over the methane vent of a Holstein.</p>
<p>Actually, what would be a shocking development is to see an announcement that claims 100% proof of the lack of brothels in any location where power and money flow. Call me jaded.</p>
<p>While it is a slim pleasure to watch one of these sanctimonious wankers get a good dose of their own medicine, I&#8217;d rather watch a couple politicians get stoked over the decision of the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals of a few days ago that said because the NSA spying was &#8220;secret&#8221;&#8230;..then nobody could actually confirm their status as injured or an aggrieved. Don&#8217;t Ask, Don&#8217;t tell, we presume. This&#8230;.now this would be remarkable news if somebody, anybody&#8230;..anyone&#8230; actually said anything about what must be a turning point for the lapsed Republic , based upon this sorry decision. There aint no Conservatives and there aint no liberals no more, theres just a giant monolith called Lifestyle Statism and the public, to quote Mencken , &#8220;is gettin it good and hard&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Original Steve</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/07/11/political-ethics-conundrum/#comment-110304</link>
		<dc:creator>Original Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim and gang,

Looks like the GOP isnt the only "major party" screwing over unconventional candidates...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sen-mike-gravel/why-i-wasnt-invited-to-t_b_55931.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim and gang,</p>
<p>Looks like the GOP isnt the only &#8220;major party&#8221; screwing over unconventional candidates&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sen-mike-gravel/why-i-wasnt-invited-to-t_b_55931.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sen-mike-gravel/why-i-wasnt-invited-to-t_b_55931.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott C.</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/07/11/political-ethics-conundrum/#comment-110302</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,
Great article!  Sounds like Vitter's wife has a sharp edge (yes, I went there).  I also like how he is a part of Rudy "el Duce" Giuliani's campaign.  Birds of a feather.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,<br />
Great article!  Sounds like Vitter&#8217;s wife has a sharp edge (yes, I went there).  I also like how he is a part of Rudy &#8220;el Duce&#8221; Giuliani&#8217;s campaign.  Birds of a feather&#8230;..</p>
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