Comments on: Bush Stands Up for Genocide http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/ Author James Bovard Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:06:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Dirk W. Sabin http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-111387 Dirk W. Sabin Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:24:43 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-111387 This is but another example of the wages of cockeyed ideology in service to Empire. Everytime I hear a member of our government expound upon international human rights while we continue to shred our own rights and reputation while running that charming little Gulag on Castro's island or giving high-paid mercenary centurions a sanguinary playground in Mesopotamia, I am reminded of the many times we have watched as some tearful televangelist blubbers on about the weakness of his mortal flesh...... after he pooched a comely supplicant at a Five Star Resort...and was caught. One does have to admit that their timing remains, well.....like the batting average at the School For the Blind. Maybe they'll all come to write books and hit the road for "big-time fees" on the lecture circuit like their leader Deeciderputshut I. Paying good money to listen to this President or any member of the current Congress speak is akin to paying money to watch the patients expire at a cut-rate rest home. Never has there been so much wonderous talk about the already known. This is but another example of the wages of cockeyed ideology in service to Empire. Everytime I hear a member of our government expound upon international human rights while we continue to shred our own rights and reputation while running that charming little Gulag on Castro’s island or giving high-paid mercenary centurions a sanguinary playground in Mesopotamia, I am reminded of the many times we have watched as some tearful televangelist blubbers on about the weakness of his mortal flesh…… after he pooched a comely supplicant at a Five Star Resort…and was caught.

One does have to admit that their timing remains, well…..like the batting average at the School For the Blind.

Maybe they’ll all come to write books and hit the road for “big-time fees” on the lecture circuit like their leader Deeciderputshut I. Paying good money to listen to this President or any member of the current Congress speak is akin to paying money to watch the patients expire at a cut-rate rest home. Never has there been so much wonderous talk about the already known.

]]> By: Jean http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-111386 Jean Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:49:14 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-111386 This isn't the first time this resolution has been brought up. The House has passed resolutions concerning this same issue twice before. The Senate on both times turned it down. However I have a better idea that Congress could pass instead. The only reason this genocide was allowed to take place was because the Turks has passed gun laws, and forced the Armenians to give up their weapons. Without anything to defend themselves, they were marched off to the slaughter camps. Why doesn't Congress pass a resolution condemning Gun Control. Yeah, I know, wishful thinking. This isn’t the first time this resolution has been brought up. The House has passed resolutions concerning this same issue twice before. The Senate on both times turned it down.
However I have a better idea that Congress could pass instead.
The only reason this genocide was allowed to take place was because the Turks has passed gun laws, and forced the Armenians to give up their weapons.
Without anything to defend themselves, they were marched off to the slaughter camps.
Why doesn’t Congress pass a resolution condemning Gun Control. Yeah, I know, wishful thinking.

]]> By: Tory http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-111385 Tory Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:33:48 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-111385 Fifty years into the future politicians will shake hands with the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. Contact your political hacks and ask them to support Ron Pauls HR 2424 - tell them to listen to Paul speak in the House - he's a genius. Fifty years into the future politicians will shake hands with the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.

Contact your political hacks and ask them to support Ron Pauls HR 2424 - tell them to listen to Paul speak in the House - he’s a genius.

]]> By: Marc http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-111377 Marc Sat, 13 Oct 2007 05:27:19 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-111377 Perhaps a century from now Congress, should it still be in existence, will consider a resolution recognizing the Iraq war/occupation as an "unfortunate error". No doubt, no mention will be made of the millions of Iraqis that had been killed, maimed, and displaced for fear of offending some future constituency or military ally. Perhaps a century from now Congress, should it still be in existence, will consider a resolution recognizing the Iraq war/occupation as an “unfortunate error”. No doubt, no mention will be made of the millions of Iraqis that had been killed, maimed, and displaced for fear of offending some future constituency or military ally.

]]> By: Mace Price http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-111375 Mace Price Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:38:36 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-111375 ...not very many Americans know the lyrics to that old song either Jack---But I do. …not very many Americans know the lyrics to that old song either Jack—But I do.

]]> By: Jack Ely http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-111373 Jack Ely Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:28:49 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-111373 Maybe the Turks should issue a proclamation condemning American war crimes in the Philippines from 1899-1902. The estimated number of dead is about the same. Maybe the Turks should issue a proclamation condemning American war crimes in the Philippines from 1899-1902. The estimated number of dead is about the same.

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-111371 Jim Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:03:55 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-111371 I also posted this blog over at Antiwar.com, where it is generating such lively debate. http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/ I also posted this blog over at Antiwar.com, where it is generating such lively debate.
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-111370 Jim Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:03:14 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-111370 Mace - great line! Steve - no, it's not 2009 yet - that may be a war or two away. Joe - I think the evidence on the Armenian genocide is far stronger than Wikipedia suggests. (Wonder who edited that entry). But I would absolutely oppose any response to the genocide that would impose penalties for denying that it occurred. France passed a law criminalizing denial of the Armenian genocide, which is as idiotic as the Turkish law criminalizing asserting tht the genocide occurred. Governments cannot be trusted to determine the truth. But Bush has been playing the genocide/holocaust threat card to ramp up his saber rattling against Iran. Mace - great line!

Steve - no, it’s not 2009 yet - that may be a war or two away.

Joe - I think the evidence on the Armenian genocide is far stronger than Wikipedia suggests. (Wonder who edited that entry).

But I would absolutely oppose any response to the genocide that would impose penalties for denying that it occurred. France passed a law criminalizing denial of the Armenian genocide, which is as idiotic as the Turkish law criminalizing asserting tht the genocide occurred.

Governments cannot be trusted to determine the truth.

But Bush has been playing the genocide/holocaust threat card to ramp up his saber rattling against Iran.

]]> By: Mace Price http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-111368 Mace Price Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:43:32 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-111368 ...all Genocides are equal, but some Genocides are more equal than others. …all Genocides are equal, but some Genocides are more equal than others.

]]> By: Joe http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-111367 Joe Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:10:27 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-111367 Jim, I don't understand why this is being brought to the forefront 90 years after the fact, except that it appears to be at the request of the Elie Wiesel Foundation (according to Wikipedia). The genocide was and is deplorable, but isn't this another form of state interventionism and political grandstanding? What role did people in Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, some states in Brazil, and the United States have in the genocide? I suspect none, but that the only reason for the official recognition is because these countries and states maybe have a sizable Armenian population. As for the "may have" comment, Wikipedia states the genocide was "the forcible deportation and massacring of hundreds of thousands to over 1.5 million Armenians". So I don't think the Post was doubting the genocide but expressing uncertainty about the actual figures. Jim, I don’t understand why this is being brought to the forefront 90 years after the fact, except that it appears to be at the request of the Elie Wiesel Foundation (according to Wikipedia). The genocide was and is deplorable, but isn’t this another form of state interventionism and political grandstanding? What role did people in Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, some states in Brazil, and the United States have in the genocide? I suspect none, but that the only reason for the official recognition is because these countries and states maybe have a sizable Armenian population.

As for the “may have” comment, Wikipedia states the genocide was “the forcible deportation and massacring of hundreds of thousands to over 1.5 million Armenians”. So I don’t think the Post was doubting the genocide but expressing uncertainty about the actual figures.

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