Comments on: The Latest Torture Twists & Turns http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/11/06/the-latest-torture-twists-turns/ Author James Bovard Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:38:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Mace Price http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/11/06/the-latest-torture-twists-turns/#comment-111786 Mace Price Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:25:57 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/11/06/the-latest-torture-twists-turns/#comment-111786 ...One established Politician's worth 6 or 7 Federal Judges. …One established Politician’s worth 6 or 7 Federal Judges.

]]> By: Tory http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/11/06/the-latest-torture-twists-turns/#comment-111780 Tory Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:51:44 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/11/06/the-latest-torture-twists-turns/#comment-111780 The courts never learn. They admit the Japanese/American internment was their worst period, but they still lean towards our gov't that can do no wrong. They still lean towards providing for the public's safety and the age old excuse 'national security', even after it's so obvious we are no less safe. They give away our freedom only to be politically correct. It's been a training ground for political appointees (SCOTUS). The courts never learn. They admit the Japanese/American internment was their worst period, but they still lean towards our gov’t that can do no wrong. They still lean towards providing for the public’s safety and the age old excuse ‘national security’, even after it’s so obvious we are no less safe.

They give away our freedom only to be politically correct.

It’s been a training ground for political appointees (SCOTUS).

]]> By: Mace Price http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/11/06/the-latest-torture-twists-turns/#comment-111760 Mace Price Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:34:00 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/11/06/the-latest-torture-twists-turns/#comment-111760 ...Kucinich is a comitted Leftist. He's been as much all of his Political career. …Kucinich is a comitted Leftist. He’s been as much all of his Political career.

]]> By: Tory http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/11/06/the-latest-torture-twists-turns/#comment-111751 Tory Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:50:28 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/11/06/the-latest-torture-twists-turns/#comment-111751 Which candidate does the military like the most ? RonPaul (RP) on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFfdB5OzlyQ&NR=1 There is nothing negative to say about Ron Pauls' campaign for President - nothing. Imagine the pleasure of walking into a polling booth and seeing Ron Pauls' name on the ballot. Which candidate does the military like the most ?

RonPaul (RP) on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFfdB5OzlyQ&NR=1

There is nothing negative to say about Ron Pauls’ campaign for President - nothing. Imagine the pleasure of walking into a polling booth and seeing Ron Pauls’ name on the ballot.

]]> By: Tory http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/11/06/the-latest-torture-twists-turns/#comment-111750 Tory Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:18:06 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/11/06/the-latest-torture-twists-turns/#comment-111750 Kucinich Takes House Floor to impeach Cheney: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJYbgouqlMw Nothing wrong with that. "We gottem on their last throes" (Cheney,2003) Kucinich Takes House Floor to impeach Cheney:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJYbgouqlMw

Nothing wrong with that.

“We gottem on their last throes” (Cheney,2003)

]]> By: Tory http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/11/06/the-latest-torture-twists-turns/#comment-111748 Tory Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:33:40 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/11/06/the-latest-torture-twists-turns/#comment-111748 He's a socialist who wants to spend the money Bush spends in Iraq here on gov't programs and more central planning. The Framers game plan included an armed citizenry. Cleveland is getting a reputation for ignoring the US Constitution and state laws too. So much for the rule of law. Hitler prohibited Jews from possessing guns. The SS confiscated them. Auschwitz was built in Poland (as planned) in the heart of its natural resources. After the SS rounded up all the disarmed Jews they were shipped (like cattle) to Auschwitz. The men were separated from the rest for slave labor; the rest were exterminated. Kucinich believes we are not responsible enough or mature enough to keep our handguns. People like Kucinich believe what happened in Germany can't happen here; for now that's true until we elect enough politicians like him. After all the Kucinichs' have their way, there will be no way we ever stop US foreign imperialism. I don't know how anyone can equate Ron Paul to Kucinich. Hillary (like many other democrats) will continue the occupation. At least republicans leave us with the tools needed to stop them. [This is the crap Bush creates.] The socialists are as bad as the others. FDR, LBJ, etc. He’s a socialist who wants to spend the money Bush spends in Iraq here on gov’t programs and more central planning.

The Framers game plan included an armed citizenry.

Cleveland is getting a reputation for ignoring the US Constitution and state laws too. So much for the rule of law.

Hitler prohibited Jews from possessing guns. The SS confiscated them. Auschwitz was built in Poland (as planned) in the heart of its natural resources. After the SS rounded up all the disarmed Jews they were shipped (like cattle) to Auschwitz. The men were separated from the rest for slave labor; the rest were exterminated. Kucinich believes we are not responsible enough or mature enough to keep our handguns. People like Kucinich believe what happened in Germany can’t happen here; for now that’s true until we elect enough politicians like him. After all the Kucinichs’ have their way, there will be no way we ever stop US foreign imperialism.

I don’t know how anyone can equate Ron Paul to Kucinich. Hillary (like many other democrats) will continue the occupation. At least republicans leave us with the tools needed to stop them. [This is the crap Bush creates.]

The socialists are as bad as the others. FDR, LBJ, etc.

]]> By: Dirk W. Sabin http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/11/06/the-latest-torture-twists-turns/#comment-111745 Dirk W. Sabin Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:24:22 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/11/06/the-latest-torture-twists-turns/#comment-111745 As much as one might disagree with Kucinech on a host of issues, one has to admit that he establishes positions based upon his own reasoning and then holds them and defends them comes what may. He and Ron Paul represent a strain of American Politics that has been lacking for too long. While everyone else scrambles for consensus or obfuscation enroute to a majority, these men hold to reason in vain hope that their might be some faint love of it remaining within the easily distracted American. Both have my admiration if for no other reason than they continue to adhere to the Framer's game plan of informed reason, principle and steadiness in the face of the current self-destructive American Politics of Chicanery. A collegial conversation between these two belligerants would be an education for every American. As much as one might disagree with Kucinech on a host of issues, one has to admit that he establishes positions based upon his own reasoning and then holds them and defends them comes what may. He and Ron Paul represent a strain of American Politics that has been lacking for too long. While everyone else scrambles for consensus or obfuscation enroute to a majority, these men hold to reason in vain hope that their might be some faint love of it remaining within the easily distracted American.

Both have my admiration if for no other reason than they continue to adhere to the Framer’s game plan of informed reason, principle and steadiness in the face of the current self-destructive American Politics of Chicanery. A collegial conversation between these two belligerants would be an education for every American.

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/11/06/the-latest-torture-twists-turns/#comment-111739 Jim Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:10:56 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/11/06/the-latest-torture-twists-turns/#comment-111739 Tom - Thanks for posting the link to the excellent UK piece on torturing for war. I had missed that story. I wonder if the SS did the same thing with the Polish prisoners they shot before invading on September 1, 1939. Tom - Thanks for posting the link to the excellent UK piece on torturing for war. I had missed that story.

I wonder if the SS did the same thing with the Polish prisoners they shot before invading on September 1, 1939.

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/11/06/the-latest-torture-twists-turns/#comment-111738 Jim Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:07:01 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/11/06/the-latest-torture-twists-turns/#comment-111738 Annie - you're right - Kucinich should be getting more respect. He has more courage on the war than the other Dem. candidates combined. Annie - you’re right - Kucinich should be getting more respect. He has more courage on the war than the other Dem. candidates combined.

]]> By: Tory http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/11/06/the-latest-torture-twists-turns/#comment-111733 Tory Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:33:16 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/11/06/the-latest-torture-twists-turns/#comment-111733 Both sides are destroying America; one with foreign policy the other with socialism. Both create leviathan (the problem). Both sides are destroying America; one with foreign policy the other with socialism. Both create leviathan (the problem).

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