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	<title>Comments on: Ron Paul&#8217;s Missed Chance Against McCain?</title>
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		<title>By: Bill Woolsey</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/03/07/ron-pauls-missed-chance-against-mccain/#comment-112664</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Woolsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 13:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The "free media" received by the campaign all described Paul as an anti-war libertrian.  With that "covered" for free, the paid media could focus on issues that were ignored by the mass media.  For example, Paul's views on immigration, the threat of the North American Union, etc.  Certainly in South Carolina, and I suspect in other states as well, most of the paid media was direct mail postcards.  They looked as good as what I received from Romney (and Huckabee and McCain were about the same too.)  I did hear ads on rock radio stations that seemed aimed at the young, anti-war voter.  We had very few TV ads in South Carolina.  I understand they did more in New Hampshire.

Anyway, apparently all of those mailings to long time Repubican primary voters did little good.  Still, it was a sensible approach.  (Immigration is an important issue and Paul's position was probably "best" to win votes here.  The North America Union stuff was counterproductive.)

The free media gave a broad message that was unpopular witht the Republican base.  Mailings to Republicans could counteract that, right?

Well, in hindsight, perhaps it is obvious that it would never work and so those resources were wasted.  TV and radio aimed at reinforcing the free media and getting the more of the independent, young, libertarian-oriented Paul voter would have been a better use of the funds.

Now the next libertarian Republican candidate will know.  On the other hand, it suggests that victory is going to be more difficult to acheive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;free media&#8221; received by the campaign all described Paul as an anti-war libertrian.  With that &#8220;covered&#8221; for free, the paid media could focus on issues that were ignored by the mass media.  For example, Paul&#8217;s views on immigration, the threat of the North American Union, etc.  Certainly in South Carolina, and I suspect in other states as well, most of the paid media was direct mail postcards.  They looked as good as what I received from Romney (and Huckabee and McCain were about the same too.)  I did hear ads on rock radio stations that seemed aimed at the young, anti-war voter.  We had very few TV ads in South Carolina.  I understand they did more in New Hampshire.</p>
<p>Anyway, apparently all of those mailings to long time Repubican primary voters did little good.  Still, it was a sensible approach.  (Immigration is an important issue and Paul&#8217;s position was probably &#8220;best&#8221; to win votes here.  The North America Union stuff was counterproductive.)</p>
<p>The free media gave a broad message that was unpopular witht the Republican base.  Mailings to Republicans could counteract that, right?</p>
<p>Well, in hindsight, perhaps it is obvious that it would never work and so those resources were wasted.  TV and radio aimed at reinforcing the free media and getting the more of the independent, young, libertarian-oriented Paul voter would have been a better use of the funds.</p>
<p>Now the next libertarian Republican candidate will know.  On the other hand, it suggests that victory is going to be more difficult to acheive.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Saul Weiner</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/03/07/ron-pauls-missed-chance-against-mccain/#comment-112653</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Saul Weiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul made 2 major mistakes in his campaign.  First, trying to position himself as a "conservative Republican".  That may have worked 50 years ago, but nowadays what it (primarily) means to be a conservative Republican is to promote war and the police state.  Second, the decision to run lame radio and TV ads instead of taking the hard-hitting approach he did during the debates, where he won his following.  Surely it is better to go down swinging than to watch 3 fat pitches sail by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul made 2 major mistakes in his campaign.  First, trying to position himself as a &#8220;conservative Republican&#8221;.  That may have worked 50 years ago, but nowadays what it (primarily) means to be a conservative Republican is to promote war and the police state.  Second, the decision to run lame radio and TV ads instead of taking the hard-hitting approach he did during the debates, where he won his following.  Surely it is better to go down swinging than to watch 3 fat pitches sail by.</p>
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		<title>By: The Infamous Oregon Lawhobbit</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/03/07/ron-pauls-missed-chance-against-mccain/#comment-112643</link>
		<dc:creator>The Infamous Oregon Lawhobbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, any "libertarian" who talks about something as nonexistent as "Islamofascism" is clearly a poseur in my book and hasn't a clue about actual liberty.  I'd rather vote for an honest fascist like McCain, first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, any &#8220;libertarian&#8221; who talks about something as nonexistent as &#8220;Islamofascism&#8221; is clearly a poseur in my book and hasn&#8217;t a clue about actual liberty.  I&#8217;d rather vote for an honest fascist like McCain, first.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Blanton</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/03/07/ron-pauls-missed-chance-against-mccain/#comment-112638</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Blanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are those who are conservatives that pose as libertarians and there are those who don't know the difference between conservatives and libertarians. Ron Paul's supporters included a large number of these folks. These people also have a knee-jerk aversion to to anything that might offend a conservative. I believe the anti-war issue was played down as this issue doesn't play well with most conservatives.

This same dynamic can be seen with the Libertarian candidate Wayne Allyn Root who was on Glenn Beck's radio show today to talk about tax cuts, big government, and the threat of Islamofascism. Root, who wrote "The Millionaire Republican", touted his Republican credentials and affirmed his dislike for liberal socialists (he didn't comment on conservative socialists).

The way things are going, I probably won't go to the polls this November unless it is to encourage people to not vote. Is that considered political terrorism now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are those who are conservatives that pose as libertarians and there are those who don&#8217;t know the difference between conservatives and libertarians. Ron Paul&#8217;s supporters included a large number of these folks. These people also have a knee-jerk aversion to to anything that might offend a conservative. I believe the anti-war issue was played down as this issue doesn&#8217;t play well with most conservatives.</p>
<p>This same dynamic can be seen with the Libertarian candidate Wayne Allyn Root who was on Glenn Beck&#8217;s radio show today to talk about tax cuts, big government, and the threat of Islamofascism. Root, who wrote &#8220;The Millionaire Republican&#8221;, touted his Republican credentials and affirmed his dislike for liberal socialists (he didn&#8217;t comment on conservative socialists).</p>
<p>The way things are going, I probably won&#8217;t go to the polls this November unless it is to encourage people to not vote. Is that considered political terrorism now?</p>
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		<title>By: The Infamous Oregon Lawhobbit</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/03/07/ron-pauls-missed-chance-against-mccain/#comment-112633</link>
		<dc:creator>The Infamous Oregon Lawhobbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 23:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice that the "Ron Paul Giving Up/Suspending" story is getting more press time than he's had all the previous year.

He should have given up sooner!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice that the &#8220;Ron Paul Giving Up/Suspending&#8221; story is getting more press time than he&#8217;s had all the previous year.</p>
<p>He should have given up sooner!</p>
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		<title>By: Adam S.</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/03/07/ron-pauls-missed-chance-against-mccain/#comment-112632</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to add a postscript: conservatism is dead. Conservatism is what it has always been: the thoughtless reception of tradition and sloth in the face of life's change. This is a movement that aims to repel the welfare state and replace it with the moralizing one. I believe that this dumpster baby of a movement should be sunk into its most unholy grave and paved over. And this is a larger sign of America's decay and warping at the hands of the baby boomers. We will have no peace in this country until the last one retires or dies. As the Brothers Judd put it, "Every day is Vietnam, until the last Vet puts a stake through the heart of the last hippie" Jeff Riggenbach put it in a libertarian way, "every year is 1968" Conservatism, liberalism,socialism, and libertarianism are all dead. Thank God! WE can start over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to add a postscript: conservatism is dead. Conservatism is what it has always been: the thoughtless reception of tradition and sloth in the face of life&#8217;s change. This is a movement that aims to repel the welfare state and replace it with the moralizing one. I believe that this dumpster baby of a movement should be sunk into its most unholy grave and paved over. And this is a larger sign of America&#8217;s decay and warping at the hands of the baby boomers. We will have no peace in this country until the last one retires or dies. As the Brothers Judd put it, &#8220;Every day is Vietnam, until the last Vet puts a stake through the heart of the last hippie&#8221; Jeff Riggenbach put it in a libertarian way, &#8220;every year is 1968&#8243; Conservatism, liberalism,socialism, and libertarianism are all dead. Thank God! WE can start over.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam S.</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/03/07/ron-pauls-missed-chance-against-mccain/#comment-112630</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is irrelevant what ever kind of grassroots support Ron Paul had. The fact is that the media did not and do not like the man. And if the media do not like you, you're screwed. The real power brokers in today's society are the academics, bureaucrats, and media types. Frank Chodorov, while often quoted as an anarchist, libertarian, conservative or the like, actually rejected all these labels and pointed out that all the major political movements out there (socialism, conservatism, liberalism, etc.) actually are vain pretensions. They all never actually deliver their goals except through perpetual servitude, or the apocalypse. A political theorist will have to do much better than what we are offered on the American spectrum. Even allowing for the excellence of the Paul campaign and Libertarian theory, the problems described are much deeper and span centuries. To truly tackle the things you describe would destroy the world as we know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is irrelevant what ever kind of grassroots support Ron Paul had. The fact is that the media did not and do not like the man. And if the media do not like you, you&#8217;re screwed. The real power brokers in today&#8217;s society are the academics, bureaucrats, and media types. Frank Chodorov, while often quoted as an anarchist, libertarian, conservative or the like, actually rejected all these labels and pointed out that all the major political movements out there (socialism, conservatism, liberalism, etc.) actually are vain pretensions. They all never actually deliver their goals except through perpetual servitude, or the apocalypse. A political theorist will have to do much better than what we are offered on the American spectrum. Even allowing for the excellence of the Paul campaign and Libertarian theory, the problems described are much deeper and span centuries. To truly tackle the things you describe would destroy the world as we know it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/03/07/ron-pauls-missed-chance-against-mccain/#comment-112626</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, the media bias in favor of McCain was part of the reason why McCain could capture antiwar votes.

But the Paul campaign did nothing to expose this scam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, the media bias in favor of McCain was part of the reason why McCain could capture antiwar votes.</p>
<p>But the Paul campaign did nothing to expose this scam.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Ruane</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/03/07/ron-pauls-missed-chance-against-mccain/#comment-112625</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Ruane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comments.  I'm wondering if the reason so many Republicans who oppose the war voted for McCain is because they heard a few sound bites of McCain criticizing the war.  They didn't notice that his criticism was that Bush is not fighting the war with enough brutality!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments.  I&#8217;m wondering if the reason so many Republicans who oppose the war voted for McCain is because they heard a few sound bites of McCain criticizing the war.  They didn&#8217;t notice that his criticism was that Bush is not fighting the war with enough brutality!</p>
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		<title>By: Clifton Rogers</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/03/07/ron-pauls-missed-chance-against-mccain/#comment-112624</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifton Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LawHobbit, by your comment, It makes me think about the Ross Perot campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LawHobbit, by your comment, It makes me think about the Ross Perot campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Clifton Rogers</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/03/07/ron-pauls-missed-chance-against-mccain/#comment-112623</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifton Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I talked to alot of people that Supported Ron Paul's views but, when asked about voting for him, they said they probably wouldn't because they didnt think he would survive the primaries and their vote would be scewed. It doesnt amaze me either that the number of people I talked to, in a one on one basis- or small groups, could agree with 99% of Ron Paul's views but when it came to 'stepping up to the plate' they were scared to for fear of retribution.... WOW, I am not scared to stand up for what I believe in- what happend to these people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I talked to alot of people that Supported Ron Paul&#8217;s views but, when asked about voting for him, they said they probably wouldn&#8217;t because they didnt think he would survive the primaries and their vote would be scewed. It doesnt amaze me either that the number of people I talked to, in a one on one basis- or small groups, could agree with 99% of Ron Paul&#8217;s views but when it came to &#8217;stepping up to the plate&#8217; they were scared to for fear of retribution&#8230;. WOW, I am not scared to stand up for what I believe in- what happend to these people?</p>
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		<title>By: Clifton Rogers</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/03/07/ron-pauls-missed-chance-against-mccain/#comment-112622</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifton Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I endorse Mr. Wilson's view too! ALso well expressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I endorse Mr. Wilson&#8217;s view too! ALso well expressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Clifton Rogers</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/03/07/ron-pauls-missed-chance-against-mccain/#comment-112621</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifton Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am Clifton Rogers and I endorse Mr. Baker's and Mr. Sabin's comments...Well expressed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am Clifton Rogers and I endorse Mr. Baker&#8217;s and Mr. Sabin&#8217;s comments&#8230;Well expressed!</p>
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		<title>By: The Infamous Oregon Lawhobbit</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/03/07/ron-pauls-missed-chance-against-mccain/#comment-112620</link>
		<dc:creator>The Infamous Oregon Lawhobbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stood next to Brian, literally, during at one of the "tin ear" experiences and his description and analysis are spot on.  It's almost as though RP didn't WANT to actually campaign or win.

There's nothing wrong with enthusiasm, per se, but there comes a time when you want to have "People Who Know What They're Doing" doing the doing.  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stood next to Brian, literally, during at one of the &#8220;tin ear&#8221; experiences and his description and analysis are spot on.  It&#8217;s almost as though RP didn&#8217;t WANT to actually campaign or win.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with enthusiasm, per se, but there comes a time when you want to have &#8220;People Who Know What They&#8217;re Doing&#8221; doing the doing.  <img src='http://jimbovard.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Dirk W. Sabin</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/03/07/ron-pauls-missed-chance-against-mccain/#comment-112619</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirk W. Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attacking the feral Bureaucracy in it's lair is not something anybody could do with any kind of success. The sordid little threeway going on between the Government, the Media and the myriad special interests that make muy dinero off the political infrastructure are not about to let anybody intrude on their bait and switch operation.

Paul could have run the best kind of DLC or Rovian Campaign and still, the carapace of conventional wisdom surrounding the syndicate occupying Foggy Bottom would have insured that he fail.

It is going to take one, or both of two events to break the spell. First, the small government corps must work from the bottom up and in the event of the second event, what looks to be a nearly unavoidable crack-up , the local ground troops will be able to consolidate their efforts to insure that this weird hybrid of Federalism and Tammany Hall does not come back. 

These are big "ifs" and the only thing we have going for us, sadly, is the historical record regarding the self-destruction and self-abuse of every imperial project in history. The people of the lapsed republic are in for a rough ride . Lets hope that there is at least a small measure of wisdom left so that intelligent choices will be made on behalf of liberty and chaste government when the bitter medicine that we cannot now avoid confronts us.

Personally, I'm an optimist but this optimism is tempered by what I see every day and so it is a reserved optimism . Mr. Paul and Mr. Obama, two voices with a common theme but with starkly different philosophy have demonstrated that there is a significant , growing and young movement to attack the Mistaken Washington Leviathan. What we all need to do is start pushing our agenda locally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attacking the feral Bureaucracy in it&#8217;s lair is not something anybody could do with any kind of success. The sordid little threeway going on between the Government, the Media and the myriad special interests that make muy dinero off the political infrastructure are not about to let anybody intrude on their bait and switch operation.</p>
<p>Paul could have run the best kind of DLC or Rovian Campaign and still, the carapace of conventional wisdom surrounding the syndicate occupying Foggy Bottom would have insured that he fail.</p>
<p>It is going to take one, or both of two events to break the spell. First, the small government corps must work from the bottom up and in the event of the second event, what looks to be a nearly unavoidable crack-up , the local ground troops will be able to consolidate their efforts to insure that this weird hybrid of Federalism and Tammany Hall does not come back. </p>
<p>These are big &#8220;ifs&#8221; and the only thing we have going for us, sadly, is the historical record regarding the self-destruction and self-abuse of every imperial project in history. The people of the lapsed republic are in for a rough ride . Lets hope that there is at least a small measure of wisdom left so that intelligent choices will be made on behalf of liberty and chaste government when the bitter medicine that we cannot now avoid confronts us.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m an optimist but this optimism is tempered by what I see every day and so it is a reserved optimism . Mr. Paul and Mr. Obama, two voices with a common theme but with starkly different philosophy have demonstrated that there is a significant , growing and young movement to attack the Mistaken Washington Leviathan. What we all need to do is start pushing our agenda locally.</p>
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