Comments on: Scenes from CPAC 2009 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2009/02/28/scenes-from-cpac-2009/ Author James Bovard Mon, 21 May 2012 16:59:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2009/02/28/scenes-from-cpac-2009/#comment-120228 Jim Thu, 05 Mar 2009 03:35:58 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/?p=731#comment-120228 OK, so memberships in the Rush Fan Club are selling poorly here... OK, so memberships in the Rush Fan Club are selling poorly here…

]]> By: Dirk W. Sabin http://jimbovard.com/blog/2009/02/28/scenes-from-cpac-2009/#comment-120218 Dirk W. Sabin Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:51:35 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/?p=731#comment-120218 Newty and his merry band of Lobbying Trolls should get themselves a nice little Contract with Obscurity. The GOP is worse than dead, its undead and will continue to thrash about and destroy any credibility for any conservative philosophy......even though it has none.....to the bitter end. Newty and his merry band of Lobbying Trolls should get themselves a nice little Contract with Obscurity.

The GOP is worse than dead, its undead and will continue to thrash about and destroy any credibility for any conservative philosophy……even though it has none…..to the bitter end.

]]> By: D. Saul Weiner http://jimbovard.com/blog/2009/02/28/scenes-from-cpac-2009/#comment-120193 D. Saul Weiner Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:11:33 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/?p=731#comment-120193 Buchanan often falls into the role of resident Republican in TV forums where the others are Dems. In these cases, he often compromises on if not repudiates hard-line positions he has taken elsewhere. I suppose the ratings go up when guests are at each other's throats. Buchanan often falls into the role of resident Republican in TV forums where the others are Dems. In these cases, he often compromises on if not repudiates hard-line positions he has taken elsewhere. I suppose the ratings go up when guests are at each other’s throats.

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2009/02/28/scenes-from-cpac-2009/#comment-120191 Jim Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:51:40 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/?p=731#comment-120191 Larry- I have heard similar criticisms on Buchanan but I don't know. I don't have cable so I don't see what he says on the air. His columns are often very good on policy and written very well. Then there are his other columns... Larry- I have heard similar criticisms on Buchanan but I don’t know. I don’t have cable so I don’t see what he says on the air. His columns are often very good on policy and written very well. Then there are his other columns…

]]> By: Lawrence http://jimbovard.com/blog/2009/02/28/scenes-from-cpac-2009/#comment-120180 Lawrence Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:55:36 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/?p=731#comment-120180 Jim, I have to ask you. Does Pat Buchanan speak consistently against the war in Iraq when he is not writing columns for anitwar.com? I've noticed that when he is interviewed on many of the TV talk shows, his position becomes rather invisible -- almost as if he is trying to "pass" among his war-mongering colleagues. Have you noticed this? He seems to act in a chameleon-like manner -- issuing different messages to different groups. Or do you think that there was some kind of "separatedt at birth" thing going on here -- with two Buchanans wandering around, one a Bushie and the other a Bush-beater? PS: I liked your comment about CPACers "passing gas," which makes me wonder what the CPACers are packing. Sorry, bad visual. Jim, I have to ask you. Does Pat Buchanan speak consistently against the war in Iraq when he is not writing columns for anitwar.com? I’ve noticed that when he is interviewed on many of the TV talk shows, his position becomes rather invisible — almost as if he is trying to “pass” among his war-mongering colleagues. Have you noticed this? He seems to act in a chameleon-like manner — issuing different messages to different groups. Or do you think that there was some kind of “separatedt at birth” thing going on here — with two Buchanans wandering around, one a Bushie and the other a Bush-beater? PS: I liked your comment about CPACers “passing gas,” which makes me wonder what the CPACers are packing. Sorry, bad visual.

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2009/02/28/scenes-from-cpac-2009/#comment-120176 Jim Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:45:24 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/?p=731#comment-120176 I'm glad RP took a hardline in the speech. I hope there is such an opening in the GOP post-Bush - but many of the folks I saw at CPAC looked ripe for picking by the next Designated Demagogue. I’m glad RP took a hardline in the speech.

I hope there is such an opening in the GOP post-Bush - but many of the folks I saw at CPAC looked ripe for picking by the next Designated Demagogue.

]]> By: D. Saul Weiner http://jimbovard.com/blog/2009/02/28/scenes-from-cpac-2009/#comment-120168 D. Saul Weiner Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:56:09 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/?p=731#comment-120168 I recall a couple comments regarding warmongers that RP made that seemed unfamiliar to me. He made, I believe, 2 references to killing a million Iraqis. He described our foreign policy as built on fallacy after fallacy. He did not hold anything back here. Perhaps he saw an opening with the GOP out of power and GWB in retirement. I recall a couple comments regarding warmongers that RP made that seemed unfamiliar to me. He made, I believe, 2 references to killing a million Iraqis. He described our foreign policy as built on fallacy after fallacy. He did not hold anything back here. Perhaps he saw an opening with the GOP out of power and GWB in retirement.

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2009/02/28/scenes-from-cpac-2009/#comment-120167 Jim Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:44:33 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/?p=731#comment-120167 Morgan, likewise - would have enjoyed catching up with you at the conservative hoedown. fyi - Morgan has excellent photos of RP and others at his link. On the mp3 - I appreciate the offer. The reason I was fishing for a transcript is that that is a quick way to see exactly what RP may have said differently in this speech compared to his earlier attacks on warmongers, Obama, etc. Morgan, likewise - would have enjoyed catching up with you at the conservative hoedown.

fyi - Morgan has excellent photos of RP and others at his link.

On the mp3 - I appreciate the offer. The reason I was fishing for a transcript is that that is a quick way to see exactly what RP may have said differently in this speech compared to his earlier attacks on warmongers, Obama, etc.

]]> By: Morgan http://jimbovard.com/blog/2009/02/28/scenes-from-cpac-2009/#comment-120166 Morgan Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:13:18 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/?p=731#comment-120166 Hey Jim, sorry I missed you at CPAC. It is always nice to see another sane person at these events. I covered all three days of CPAC. I have a grungy recording of Paul's speech. He did the right thing and spoke out against the mainstream conservative foreign policy. He got some boos and some applause as expected. If you'd like I can send you the mp3 of his speech. I also posted a short write up with photographs focusing on the foreign policy divide at CPAC at www.fr33agents.com Hey Jim, sorry I missed you at CPAC. It is always nice to see another sane person at these events.

I covered all three days of CPAC. I have a grungy recording of Paul’s speech. He did the right thing and spoke out against the mainstream conservative foreign policy. He got some boos and some applause as expected.

If you’d like I can send you the mp3 of his speech. I also posted a short write up with photographs focusing on the foreign policy divide at CPAC at http://www.fr33agents.com

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2009/02/28/scenes-from-cpac-2009/#comment-120141 Jim Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:37:22 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/?p=731#comment-120141 And on top of this, the media is trying to bring back Newt Gingrich. And on top of this, the media is trying to bring back Newt Gingrich.

]]> By: Dirk W. Sabin http://jimbovard.com/blog/2009/02/28/scenes-from-cpac-2009/#comment-120139 Dirk W. Sabin Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:48:34 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/?p=731#comment-120139 Team Sarah ehhhh? Gosh, I'm feelin perkier and perkier about the prospects fer this wonderful Republican Party to be born agin donchaknow. And with Joe the Plumber remindin me of those Colsen kidders at the Watergate, why I'm jest feelin its gonna be a swell resurrection. With Ron Paul's candidacy gaining little traction during the best demonstration of what he has been saying for years..well, we can assume the GOP will continue it's determined effort to become the kind of caricature generally reserved for West Village Transvestites...like, say, Hedda Lettuce who , come to think of it, looks quite a lot like the venerated deity of Team Sarah. Team Sarah ehhhh? Gosh, I’m feelin perkier and perkier about the prospects fer this wonderful Republican Party to be born agin donchaknow. And with Joe the Plumber remindin me of those Colsen kidders at the Watergate, why I’m jest feelin its gonna be a swell resurrection.

With Ron Paul’s candidacy gaining little traction during the best demonstration of what he has been saying for years..well, we can assume the GOP will continue it’s determined effort to become the kind of caricature generally reserved for West Village Transvestites…like, say, Hedda Lettuce who , come to think of it, looks quite a lot like the venerated deity of Team Sarah.

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2009/02/28/scenes-from-cpac-2009/#comment-120137 Jim Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:09:22 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/?p=731#comment-120137 Saul, I was planning to catch the Ron Paul speech but I got buttonholed for a radio interview about the time that his speech started. (This wasn't the Brian Wilson interview - that was the one that caused the Sarah Palin Anti-Defamation League to file a complaint about the references to overexcited College Republicans desecrating the life-size cutout of Palin). I checked on the RP website and did not see a transcript of the speech. [http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-02-27/ron-pauls-speech-at-cpac-2009/] If somebody is aware of a transcript, if they could post the link, that would be helpful. I'm glad Ron Paul is speaking at events like CPAC. But I am not sanguine about the corrigibilty of most of the diehard attendees. Saul, I was planning to catch the Ron Paul speech but I got buttonholed for a radio interview about the time that his speech started. (This wasn’t the Brian Wilson interview - that was the one that caused the Sarah Palin Anti-Defamation League to file a complaint about the references to overexcited College Republicans desecrating the life-size cutout of Palin).

I checked on the RP website and did not see a transcript of the speech. [http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-02-27/ron-pauls-speech-at-cpac-2009/] If somebody is aware of a transcript, if they could post the link, that would be helpful.

I’m glad Ron Paul is speaking at events like CPAC. But I am not sanguine about the corrigibilty of most of the diehard attendees.

]]> By: D. Saul Weiner http://jimbovard.com/blog/2009/02/28/scenes-from-cpac-2009/#comment-120136 D. Saul Weiner Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:40:30 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/?p=731#comment-120136 Jim, Did you attend Ron Paul's speech? If so, I would be interested in the reactions you observed. After all, he had some pretty hard-hitting attacks against the Iraq War and the Empire in there. I have to believe that some of the attendees weren't too receptive to this aspect of his message. But maybe he changed some minds. Jim,

Did you attend Ron Paul’s speech? If so, I would be interested in the reactions you observed. After all, he had some pretty hard-hitting attacks against the Iraq War and the Empire in there. I have to believe that some of the attendees weren’t too receptive to this aspect of his message. But maybe he changed some minds.

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2009/02/28/scenes-from-cpac-2009/#comment-120135 Jim Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:21:47 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/?p=731#comment-120135 I always carry Purell hand cleanser for such events. "Joe the Plumber" was John McCain's Last Great Hope in October 2008. Here is the Wikipedia entry on him -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_the_Plumber I always carry Purell hand cleanser for such events.

“Joe the Plumber” was John McCain’s Last Great Hope in October 2008.

Here is the Wikipedia entry on him -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_the_Plumber

]]> By: Sunni http://jimbovard.com/blog/2009/02/28/scenes-from-cpac-2009/#comment-120134 Sunni Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:25:55 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/?p=731#comment-120134 How long did it take for you to shower and feel clean afterward? And, um, who's "Joe the Plumber" and why is he famous? How long did it take for you to shower and feel clean afterward?

And, um, who’s “Joe the Plumber” and why is he famous?

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