{"id":10538,"date":"2017-09-05T10:32:32","date_gmt":"2017-09-05T14:32:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jimbovard.com\/blog\/?p=10538"},"modified":"2024-09-11T17:08:11","modified_gmt":"2024-09-11T21:08:11","slug":"should-be-hanged-blown-banished-reader-feedback","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jimbovard.com\/blog\/2017\/09\/05\/should-be-hanged-blown-banished-reader-feedback\/","title":{"rendered":"I Should Be Hanged, Blown Up, or Banished: Reader Feedback"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Last week&#8217;s\u00a0 articles in <strong>USA Today<\/strong> spurred lots of helpful suggestions from thoughtful readers.\u00a0 Admittedly, not everyone liked the articles.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Oughtsix<\/strong>, a commenter on a gun discussion board, was outraged by the\u00a0&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/story\/opinion\/2017\/08\/28\/ruby-ridge-lessons-fighting-extremism-james-bovard-column\/593539001\/\">Ruby Ridge Lessons for Fighting Extremism<\/a>&#8221;\u00a0article&#8217;s subhead (&#8220;\u201cWhen the government tries to squash anti-American ideas it doesn\u2019t like, the results are often destructive of American ideals.\u201d )<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8220;In the context of that article and its obvious bias, I have never seen a better example of rhetoric, cognitive disconnect, hypocrisy, journojizmic orgiasty (I made that up\u2026 pretty good huh?) and er, LYING than that.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Must pay pretty good to balm the conscience for looking in the mirror in the cold, gray light of dawn\u2026 on the day the gallows looms.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>****<\/p>\n<p>[Name redacted] sent me a Twitter message on Saturday on the &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/story\/opinion\/2017\/09\/01\/harvey-proves-flood-subsidies-must-end-james-bovard-column\/619926001\/\">Hurricane Harvey Proves\u00a0Flood Subsidies Must End<\/a>&#8221; oped:<\/p>\n<p><span data-ft=\"{&quot;tn&quot;:&quot;K&quot;}\"><span class=\"UFICommentBody\">&#8220;Your article about not continuing to rebuild Texas houses is insensitive, crude, poorly timed and confirms my opinion that you are a libtard &#8211; if not a complete ass. Do the world a favor: stick a lit cigar up you butt and blow yourself to hell!!&#8221; <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-ft=\"{&quot;tn&quot;:&quot;K&quot;}\"><span class=\"UFICommentBody\">Actually, I don&#8217;t think cigars work that way<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>****<\/p>\n<p>Columnist <strong>Ann Coulter<\/strong> kindly re-tweeted several tweets on the Ruby Ridge article, which she labeled &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AnnCoulter\/status\/902573625634521088\">another great @Jimbovard article<\/a>.&#8221;\u00a0 Ann has a 1.7 million Twitter followers, not all of whom are fans:<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"account-group js-account-group js-action-profile js-user-profile-link js-nav\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MrBiebersGold\" data-user-id=\"3005547887\"><span class=\"FullNameGroup\"><strong class=\"fullname show-popup-with-id \" data-aria-label-part=\"\">black lives matter<\/strong>\u200f<span class=\"UserNameBreak\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"username u-dir\" dir=\"ltr\" data-aria-label-part=\"\">@<b>MrBiebersGold<\/b><\/span><\/a> <small class=\"time\"><a class=\"tweet-timestamp js-permalink js-nav js-tooltip\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MrBiebersGold\/status\/902947485181718530\" data-original-title=\"1:33 PM - 30 Aug 2017\" data-conversation-id=\"902576031889989633\"><span class=\"_timestamp js-short-timestamp js-relative-timestamp\" aria-hidden=\"true\" data-time=\"1504114431\" data-time-ms=\"1504114431000\" data-long-form=\"true\">1h<\/span><span class=\"u-hiddenVisually\" data-aria-label-part=\"last\">1 hour ago<\/span><\/a>\u00a0 <\/small>\u00a0Replying to <a class=\"pretty-link js-user-profile-link\" dir=\"ltr\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AnnCoulter\" rel=\"noopener\" data-user-id=\"196168350\"><span class=\"username u-dir\" dir=\"ltr\">@<b>AnnCoulter<\/b><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"js-tweet-text-container\">\n<p class=\"TweetTextSize js-tweet-text tweet-text\" lang=\"en\" data-aria-label-part=\"0\"><a class=\"twitter-atreply pretty-link js-nav\" dir=\"ltr\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JimBovard\" data-mentioned-user-id=\"319110601\"><s>@<\/s><b>JimBovard<\/b><\/a> how&#8217;s about your ass gets banned too?<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\" data-aria-label-part=\"0\">****<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\" data-aria-label-part=\"0\">Other respondents scorned any discussion of the cold facts of Ruby Ridge:<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"account-group js-account-group js-action-profile js-user-profile-link js-nav\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DrysonB\" data-user-id=\"1118061457\"><span class=\"FullNameGroup\"><strong class=\"fullname show-popup-with-id \" data-aria-label-part=\"\">DrysonB<\/strong>\u200f<span class=\"UserNameBreak\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"username u-dir\" dir=\"ltr\" data-aria-label-part=\"\">@<b>DrysonB<\/b><\/span><\/a><small class=\"time\"><a class=\"tweet-timestamp js-permalink js-nav js-tooltip\" title=\"7:26 AM - 30 Aug 2017\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DrysonB\/status\/902855127501070336\" data-conversation-id=\"902573625634521088\"><span class=\"_timestamp js-short-timestamp js-relative-timestamp\" aria-hidden=\"true\" data-time=\"1504092411\" data-time-ms=\"1504092411000\" data-long-form=\"true\">3h<\/span><span class=\"u-hiddenVisually\" data-aria-label-part=\"last\">3 hours ago<\/span><\/a>\u00a0 <\/small>\u00a0\u00a0Replying to <a class=\"pretty-link js-user-profile-link\" dir=\"ltr\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AnnCoulter\" rel=\"noopener\" data-user-id=\"196168350\"><span class=\"username u-dir\" dir=\"ltr\">@<b>AnnCoulter<\/b><\/span><\/a><a class=\"pretty-link js-user-profile-link\" dir=\"ltr\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JimBovard\" rel=\"noopener\" data-user-id=\"319110601\"><span class=\"username u-dir\" dir=\"ltr\">@<b>JimBovard<\/b><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"js-tweet-text-container\">\n<p class=\"TweetTextSize js-tweet-text tweet-text\" lang=\"en\" data-aria-label-part=\"0\">That is typical Alt &#8211; Ring Wing insanity.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p lang=\"en\" data-aria-label-part=\"0\">****<\/p>\n<div class=\"_3-8m\">\n<div>At least one of the commenters on the Ruby Ridge piece wanted to see more dead &#8220;extremists&#8221; &#8211;<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p><a class=\"account-group js-account-group js-action-profile js-user-profile-link js-nav\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/IamEdGToday\" data-user-id=\"776895280281063424\"><span class=\"FullNameGroup\"><strong class=\"fullname show-popup-with-id \" data-aria-label-part=\"\">Trump-B-Gone<\/strong>\u200f<span class=\"UserNameBreak\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"username u-dir\" dir=\"ltr\" data-aria-label-part=\"\">@<b>IamEdGToday<\/b><\/span><\/a><small class=\"time\"><a class=\"tweet-timestamp js-permalink js-nav js-tooltip\" title=\"5:32 PM - 29 Aug 2017\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/IamEdGToday\/status\/902645190665670656\" data-conversation-id=\"902349517617553408\"><span class=\"_timestamp js-short-timestamp js-relative-timestamp\" aria-hidden=\"true\" data-time=\"1504042358\" data-time-ms=\"1504042358000\" data-long-form=\"true\">16h<\/span><span class=\"u-hiddenVisually\" data-aria-label-part=\"last\">16 hours ago<\/span><\/a> <\/small>\u00a0\u00a0Replying to <a class=\"pretty-link js-user-profile-link\" dir=\"ltr\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JimBovard\" rel=\"noopener\" data-user-id=\"319110601\"><span class=\"username u-dir\" dir=\"ltr\">@<b>JimBovard<\/b><\/span><\/a><a class=\"pretty-link js-user-profile-link\" dir=\"ltr\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AnnCoulter\" rel=\"noopener\" data-user-id=\"196168350\"><span class=\"username u-dir\" dir=\"ltr\">@<b>AnnCoulter<\/b><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"js-tweet-text-container\">\n<p class=\"TweetTextSize js-tweet-text tweet-text\" lang=\"en\" data-aria-label-part=\"0\">Too bad the same didn&#8217;t happen at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. All terrorists deserve harsh treatment.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\" data-aria-label-part=\"0\">*****<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p lang=\"en\" data-aria-label-part=\"0\">Alternatively, the real problem was diagnosed as a shortage of servility:<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\" data-aria-label-part=\"0\"><a class=\"account-group js-account-group js-action-profile js-user-profile-link js-nav\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JohnBaileyJ\" data-user-id=\"2268675650\"><span class=\"FullNameGroup\"><strong class=\"fullname show-popup-with-id \" data-aria-label-part=\"\">John Bailey<\/strong>\u200f<span class=\"UserNameBreak\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"username u-dir\" dir=\"ltr\" data-aria-label-part=\"\">@<b>JohnBaileyJ<\/b><\/span><\/a><small class=\"time\"> <a class=\"tweet-timestamp js-permalink js-nav js-tooltip\" title=\"1:41 PM - 29 Aug 2017\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JohnBaileyJ\/status\/902587030944661506\" data-conversation-id=\"902240394146185216\"><span class=\"_timestamp js-short-timestamp js-relative-timestamp\" aria-hidden=\"true\" data-time=\"1504028492\" data-time-ms=\"1504028492000\" data-long-form=\"true\">20h<\/span><span class=\"u-hiddenVisually\" data-aria-label-part=\"last\">20 hours ago<\/span><\/a> <\/small>Replying to <a class=\"pretty-link js-user-profile-link\" dir=\"ltr\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JimBovard\" rel=\"noopener\" data-user-id=\"319110601\"><span class=\"username u-dir\" dir=\"ltr\">@<b>JimBovard<\/b><\/span><\/a><a class=\"pretty-link js-user-profile-link\" dir=\"ltr\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AnnCoulter\" rel=\"noopener\" data-user-id=\"196168350\"><span class=\"username u-dir\" dir=\"ltr\">@<b>AnnCoulter<\/b><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"js-tweet-text-container\">\n<p class=\"TweetTextSize js-tweet-text tweet-text\" lang=\"en\" data-aria-label-part=\"0\">Failure to follow orders of a legal authority caused this mistake.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\" data-aria-label-part=\"0\">*****<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\" data-aria-label-part=\"0\">Anyone who the government decides to kill is apparently a terrorist who deserves killing:<\/p>\n<div class=\"js-tweet-text-container\">\u00a0<a class=\"account-group js-account-group js-action-profile js-user-profile-link js-nav\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/john3661735\" data-user-id=\"3597049814\"><span class=\"FullNameGroup\"><strong class=\"fullname show-popup-with-id \" data-aria-label-part=\"\">Manofbat<\/strong>\u200f<span class=\"UserNameBreak\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"username u-dir\" dir=\"ltr\" data-aria-label-part=\"\">@<b>john3661735<\/b><\/span><\/a><small class=\"time\"> <a class=\"tweet-timestamp js-permalink js-nav js-tooltip\" title=\"10:41 PM - 29 Aug 2017\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/john3661735\/status\/902723019075760128\" data-conversation-id=\"902240394146185216\"><span class=\"_timestamp js-short-timestamp js-relative-timestamp\" aria-hidden=\"true\" data-time=\"1504060914\" data-time-ms=\"1504060914000\" data-long-form=\"true\">11h<\/span><span class=\"u-hiddenVisually\" data-aria-label-part=\"last\">11 hours ago<\/span><\/a>\u00a0 <\/small>\u00a0Replying to <a class=\"pretty-link js-user-profile-link\" dir=\"ltr\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JimBovard\" rel=\"noopener\" data-user-id=\"319110601\"><span class=\"username u-dir\" dir=\"ltr\">@<b>JimBovard<\/b><\/span><\/a><a class=\"pretty-link js-user-profile-link\" dir=\"ltr\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/trumps_feed\" rel=\"noopener\" data-user-id=\"897856607186554880\"><span class=\"username u-dir\" dir=\"ltr\">@<b>trumps_feed<\/b><\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"js-tweet-text-container\">\n<p class=\"TweetTextSize js-tweet-text tweet-text\" lang=\"en\" data-aria-label-part=\"0\">Weaver was an American terrorist. What&#8217;s your point?<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\" data-aria-label-part=\"0\">*************<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"UFIImageBlockContent _42ef clearfix\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"_3-8m\">\n<div>Gun owners dissed the Ruby Ridge piece on gun discussion boards:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"js-tweet-text-container\">\n<div class=\"ProfileTweet-action ProfileTweet-action--reply\">\n<div><strong>TangoFoxtrot<\/strong>: I only made it a few lines. As soon as I saw left wing groups called right wing the writer identified himself as an idiot. This fight is Democrats fighting Democrats.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><strong>DoNotBugMe<\/strong>: Why does it have to be &#8220;right wing&#8221; extremists, oh I forgot, the media has to paint the racists and Nazis as GOP members to continue the brainwashing. I have some ideas about some other article topics that are a lot more interesting&#8230;<\/div>\n<div><strong>Bolus<\/strong>:<\/div>\n<div style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">I would not trust any journalist with anything I said, especially concerning firearms.<\/div>\n<div style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Let&#8217;s check out the article:\u00a0 &#8220;many people are demanding a crackdown on dangerous right-wing extremists.&#8221;<br \/>\nA source for this statement? how many is many? 14? 22,000? I&#8217;d like to hear these many people and their exact demand? Who did they demand this of?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Sound like that sentence is an opinion based on a gist that the author has after watching news on TV.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">sorry, could not read further. Couldnt get past the first sentence. Sounds like what I&#8217;d write for a junior high essay and didnt do any research.<\/p>\n<p><b>Aesop\u00a0<\/b> The original article is USAToday boilerplate.<\/p>\n<p><b>Concerned American\u00a0 <\/b>It\u2019s the USA Today. Normies of low function<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p><b>Hybrid Slave: <\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Although I agree with most of the basic content about the wrong doings of the feds, it seems difficult for me to discern the writers political lines, based on just the article, what with siding and defending Weaver (+1 as far as I&#8217;m concerned), and the writer&#8217;s seemingly speaking out for the 1st Amendment.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">But I become confused:confused: by the use of the divide tactic of name calling; especially because, as I recall (correct me if I&#8217;m wrong), the Ruby Ridge murders occurred during the (here with the labels again :rolleyes:) left wing Clinton\/Janet Reno administration (I voted for &#8220;Papa Bush&#8221;, to my everlasting shame). But, I digress.. so I&#8217;m just a bit confused as to exactly who the writer believes to be the &#8220;bad guys&#8221; or what side the writer is on. Maybe he&#8217;s not exactly sure of either himself.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pat701<\/strong>\u00a0 Looking to print more anti-gun shit fuck him. Write about Soros instead.<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"localimg\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ar15.com\/images\/smilies\/smiley_smartass.gif\" \/><\/p>\n<p>****<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\" data-aria-label-part=\"0\">Responding on the USAToday.com page to the hurricane subsidy piece:<\/p>\n<div>\n<div class=\"UFIImageBlockContent _42ef clearfix\">\n<div class=\"_ohf rfloat\"><a class=\" UFICommentActorName\" dir=\"ltr\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/mary.g.nichols.9\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mary Guzman Nichols<\/a> <span class=\"_5mdd\">This is NOT the time for your crap! The Texas folks do not need your negativity at this time. Please make better use of your time!!!!!<\/span><\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"_3-8m\">\n<div>==<\/div>\n<div>Bummer!\u00a0 I thought my crap was timeless.<\/div>\n<div>****<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><span data-ft=\"{&quot;tn&quot;:&quot;K&quot;}\"><span class=\"UFICommentBody\">Tommy Martin \u00b7 Lexington, Kentucky: Besides being ignorant just how f****ing stupid is James Bovard? Not all of the the homes that were damaged are in what is considered a flood plain.&#8221; <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-ft=\"{&quot;tn&quot;:&quot;K&quot;}\"><span class=\"UFICommentBody\">I guess Mr. Martin didn&#8217;t catch the part of the article that talks about how FEMA &amp; Congress screw up flood maps.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>*****<\/p>\n<p>I also heard lots of friendly comments from folks who liked the pieces.\u00a0 I much appreciated that feedback!<\/p>\n<p>Thanks to <a href=\"http:\/\/pixabay.com\">Pixabay.com<\/a> for the royalty-free images.<\/p>\n<p>+++<\/p>\n<p>Here is the earlier version of the jpeg collage.\u00a0 I welcome suggestions &amp; criticism\u00a0 &#8211;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ProfileTweet-action ProfileTweet-action--dm\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"ProfileTweet-action ProfileTweet-action--dm\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; Last week&#8217;s\u00a0 articles in USA Today spurred lots of helpful suggestions from thoughtful readers.\u00a0 Admittedly, not everyone liked the articles. Oughtsix, a commenter on a gun discussion board, was outraged by the\u00a0&#8220;Ruby Ridge Lessons for Fighting Extremism&#8221;\u00a0article&#8217;s subhead (&#8220;\u201cWhen the government tries to squash anti-American ideas it doesn\u2019t like, the results are often destructive [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[1134,476,984,1132,182,1133,652],"class_list":["post-10538","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-missed-medications","tag-extremism","tag-fan-mail","tag-flood-subsidies","tag-guns","tag-hurricane-harvey","tag-ruby-ridge"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>I Should Be Hanged, Blown Up, or Banished: Reader Feedback - James Bovard<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Last week&#039;s USA Today articles spurred calls for me to be hanged, blown up, and banished. 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