{"id":5142,"date":"2013-04-23T14:31:44","date_gmt":"2013-04-23T18:31:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jimbovard.com\/blog\/?p=5142"},"modified":"2024-09-11T23:39:56","modified_gmt":"2024-09-12T03:39:56","slug":"rand-paul-endorses-using-drones-to-kill-suspected-liquor-store-robbers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jimbovard.com\/blog\/2013\/04\/23\/rand-paul-endorses-using-drones-to-kill-suspected-liquor-store-robbers\/","title":{"rendered":"Rand Paul Endorses Using Drones to Kill Suspected Liquor Store Robbers"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Sen. Rand Paul did great work focusing America&#8217;s attention on drone killings last month during his filibuster. I was surprised to learn today that Sen. Paul endorses using drones to kill suspected liquor store robbers: \u201cIf someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and fifty dollars in cash I don\u2019t care if a Drone kills him or a policeman kills him&#8230;&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Lots of folks I know with concealed carry permits (or with concealed weapons regardless) have $50 on them when they leave the liquor store&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Sen. Paul also apparently would not object to using drones domestically in critical police actions: &#8220;\u201cIf there is a killer on the loose in a neighborhood, I\u2019m not against drones being used to search them.&#8221;\u00a0Paul also said in the<a href=\"http:\/\/www.salon.com\/2013\/04\/23\/rand_paul_wouldve_been_ok_with_using_drones_to_hunt_boston_suspect\/\"> Salon article<\/a>: \u201cHere\u2019s the distinction, I have never argued against any technology being used against having an imminent threat an act of crime going on&#8230;&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Imminent threats&#8221; have a way of breeding like lemmings&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>Rand Paul had been scheduled to be the star lead-off witness for the first-ever Senate hearing on drones and killing today. The ACLU had heavily promoted his appearance with a &#8220;Stand with Rand&#8221; motto. However, after the time for today&#8217;s hearing was shifted from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m., Sen. Paul announced that he had a schedule conflict and could not make the event.<\/p>\n<p><strong>UPDATE<\/strong>: <strong>Jordan Bloom<\/strong> of the <em>American Conservative<\/em> wrote a brief piece mentioning this blog entry and seeking to vindicate Rand Paul. \u00a0There&#8217;s lively sparring in the comment section; several folks are making excellent points. Check it out<a href=\"http:\/\/www.theamericanconservative.com\/no-rand-paul-didnt-just-switch-his-position-on-drones\/\"> here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>UPDATE #2: \u00a0Senator Paul&#8217;s office issued a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.paul.senate.gov\/?p=press_release&amp;id=779\">statement <\/a>this evening: &#8221;\u00a0&#8220;<em>My\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=JibKfETwNmU\">comments<\/a>\u00a0last night left the mistaken impression that my position on drones had changed.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0&#8220;Let me be clear: it has not. Armed drones should not be used in normal crime situations. They only may only be considered in extraordinary, lethal situations where there is an ongoing, imminent threat. I described that scenario previously during my Senate filibuster.\u00a0\u00a0Additionally, surveillance drones should only be used with warrants and specific targets.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>My view: The phrase <strong>&#8220;ongoing, imminent threat<\/strong>&#8221; is still extremely vague.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; Sen. Rand Paul did great work focusing America&#8217;s attention on drone killings last month during his filibuster. I was surprised to learn today that Sen. 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