Paving the Way to War with Iran

Israel’s war on Lebanon is a warm-up for the U.S. war on Iran.

That is the message of Seymour Hersh’s latest superb article in the New Yorker. Hersh reveals that the Bush administration was “closely involved” in planning Israel’s attacks on Lebanon.  A former senior intelligence official informed Hersh that, beginning this Spring, “planners from the U.S. Air Force—under pressure from the White House to develop a war plan for a decisive strike against Iran’s nuclear facilities—began consulting with their counterparts in the Israeli Air Force.”

Hersh notes:
The surprising strength of Hezbollah’s resistance, and its continuing ability to fire rockets into northern Israel in the face of the constant Israeli bombing, the Middle East expert told me, “is a massive setback for those in the White House who want to use force in Iran. And those who argue that the bombing will create internal dissent and revolt in Iran are also set back.”

Israel is following its own agenda.  But a Pentagon consultant informed Hersh that the Bush White House “has been agitating for some time to find a reason for a preëmptive blow against Hezbollah.”  Hezbollah’s capture of two Israeli soldiers last month provided the pretext for a massive bombing campaign than had been planned long before.

The Bush team is chomping at the bit to use the “lessons” from Israel’s war for its own on Iran.  A former intelligence officer told Hersh: “We told Israel, ‘Look, if you guys have to go, we’re behind you all the way. But we think it should be sooner rather than later—the longer you wait, the less time we have to evaluate and plan for Iran before Bush gets out of office.’” The Bush team apparently believes that they are entitled to create a few more catastrophes before Bush’s time runs out.

Hersh highlights the harebrained notion underlying the Israeli bombing campaign: “Israel believed that, by targeting Lebanon’s infrastructure, including highways, fuel depots, and even the civilian runways at the main Beirut airport, it could persuade Lebanon’s large Christian and Sunni populations to turn against Hezbollah, according to the former senior intelligence official.” 

This has backfired massively.   And yet the Bush administration appears to still believe that a U.S. bombing campaign in Iran would turn the Iranian people against the Iranian government.  

There is no evidence that Bush or Cheney have yet recognized any drawbacks, political or otherwise, from sending Americans off to die for damnfool ideas.

 

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43 Responses to Paving the Way to War with Iran

  1. Sol August 13, 2006 at 12:49 pm #

    Does team Bush get a commission on each war they start? Or maybe they get paid by the corpse? How many wars does Bush think he can fight at once?

  2. gorgous george August 13, 2006 at 3:55 pm #

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  3. Jim August 13, 2006 at 8:10 pm #

    Sol – I don’t know if somebody somewhere gets a bonus for the corpses – sort of like Benjamin Franklin derided the Hessian king for during the Revolutionary War. Hessian conscripts were sent to help the Brits suppress the Americans, and the payment schedule was suspect.

    As for your final question – How many wars does Bush think he can fight at once? +
    Unless you count the Battle of the Bottle, Bush has never fought any war.

  4. Jim August 13, 2006 at 8:15 pm #

    On the ‘G. George’ comment – it is always appreciated when people add subtlely to the comment board.

  5. Ray August 13, 2006 at 9:46 pm #

    There might be some kind of bonus for putting new ideas in the Imperium Americanus suggestion box. The other day I heard Ann Coulter say that the U.S. should invade Cuba next.

  6. Jim August 13, 2006 at 10:15 pm #

    Dangerous to let some conservatives possess a world map.

  7. Ray August 13, 2006 at 10:20 pm #

    Ya, the next thing you know, they’ll be throwing darts at the map to pick the next target to invade next.

  8. Jim August 13, 2006 at 10:23 pm #

    Considering how the Bush administration seems to ignore all the non-halfwit information generated by the CIA, it would be cheaper simply to shut down the US intelligence agencies and buy dart boards to post all over the White House.

    There are other possible upsides to having everyone in the White House throwing darts, esp. after a few drinks.

  9. W Baker August 14, 2006 at 11:00 am #

    Jim,

    Let’s forget about the immorality and unconstitutional aspects of our participation in more war in the Middle East. What was really amazing was to read that Bush & Co. would evaluate and structure an Iranian strike based on the Lebanese theatre. What are these folks smoking? Lebanon may be the biggest polyglot in the Middle East. It has taken several weeks of constant bombing and shelling to cement Lebanese Christian, Druze, Sunni, Alawite support for the Shia Hezbollah, but it has happened. Of course, these fractured groups have little or no military strength – even when they are united. Iran, on the other hand, is homogeneous by comparison. Yes, they have a few Christians, Jews, and Kurds, but Shia Islam is about 90% (see Wikipedia entries for both Lebanon and Iran). Add to this the fact that 2/3 of the Iranian population is under 30, relatively well-educated (80% literacy), and are tired of seeing the US destroy their brethren in Iraq. On top of this the disruption of Iranian oil would send oil prices to above $150/barrel crude. Dubdub is about to tear into the biggest hornet’s nest that not even he, in his wildest Quixotic dreams, could ever imagine.

  10. Jim August 14, 2006 at 11:11 am #

    Wes, so you don’t think the Iranian people want to be free?

    It is amazing how much of the Bush team appears to actually buy into the Bush BS. And now they are racing on deadline to start more wars before Bush’s entitlement to kill expires on January 20, 2009….

  11. W Baker August 14, 2006 at 11:23 am #

    Jim,

    I know if I were Iranian I would certainly want to be free…free of the US and its preëminent, first State, Israel! My Lord, the US is doing everything it can to encourage Iran to go nuclear, and we are making them more wealthy with the war-caused high prices of oil (I know China and Indian demands have driven up prices, but a large component of oil prices have been the Iraqi disaster). I mean what right thinking Iranian physicist wouldn’t redouble his efforts. As Pakistan and North Korea have proven beyond a shadow of doubt, if you want to the US bully to leave you alone, get a friggin’ nuclear weapon.

    Surely, surely the US population would not stand for an even bigger debacle than Iraq, viz., Iran.

  12. Jim August 14, 2006 at 11:38 am #

    “Surely, surely…” The American people would not stand for going to war against Iran – unless BUsh said it was in our national interest. Or unless there was another terror attack. Or unless the feds can round up some nitwits who claim to be planning mischief in the name of Iran.

    Remember that at the time that Bush launched the war against Iraq, most Americans believed that Saddam had been behind 9/11.

  13. Original Steve August 14, 2006 at 4:33 pm #

    We have all had these “they have gone too far” moments since the Summer of ’03. However, this time I am pretty sure that any sort of invasion of or air attack against Iran will be the end of the Bush people either short or long term. By this, I mean impeachment.

    Even if we do have the strongest military on earth, the Iranians are not going to just sit there with us on their border and an active insurgency in Iraq and not use it to their advantage. Bush may be a man possessed with little talent, table manners or intellect but for Crimminy’s sakes I can’t believe that even he would be stupid enough to go ahead and attack Iran.

    My thoughts on this are that he and his band of merry Neocons wanted to invade, in short order, Iraq, Iran and then North Korea. Obviously they never finished step 1.

    It just aint gonna happen, and if it does it will be the biggest long term disaster in American History, surpassing Vietnam, Iraq and Slavery.

    Thus spake Steve

  14. W Baker August 14, 2006 at 4:34 pm #

    Jim,

    Attached is a link to a CNN piece where the ‘Pontificator’ (his other hat besides, “Decider”) declares Hezbollah suffered defeat http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/14/bush/index.html. Says Bush, “How can you claim victory when you were state within a state in southern Lebanon, and now you’re going to be replaced by an international force?”

    Can someone please explain Fourth Generation warfare to Bush? Hezbollah still exist. They didn’t have to conquer Tel Aviv or Jerusalem to win. They won by existing. Even in numbers game, Hezbollah won if William Lind’s numbers are correct. (http://antiwar.com/lind/)

    Justin Raimondo also has a good piece on the ‘chest beating’. http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=9533

    All that said, perhaps the Bushites secretly understand this for what it is: propaganda at the end of a defeat and will take their bloody eyes off Iran!

    One can hope!

  15. Jim August 14, 2006 at 4:57 pm #

    Steve – Alas, I lack your faith in Bush’s learning curve and/or in the Democrats’ gumption (in impeaching him if he goes to war again).

    Bush’s comments at the State Department today (available here http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/14/AR2006081400699.html ) sound like he is as clueless as ever. And people in Washington still nod their heads respectfully when he emits this kind of drivel.

  16. Original Steve August 14, 2006 at 6:34 pm #

    Hopefully we will never see it happen but I would be willing to bet that brewski that if they hit Iran overtly that will be the end of W’s Presidency.

    Drivel? Yes, I saw the Lisa Myers report on terror on MSNBC last night and heard his “they hate freedom” spiel. Sounded like absolute babble.

  17. Jim August 14, 2006 at 7:19 pm #

    What sort of brew we talking about here? Lager or ale?

    I have been fascinated by the Washington – or perhaps Northeast Corridor – Establishment’s tolerance and applause for this type of “freedom” drivel. Maybe I should not be surprised, since most of these dignitaries never seemed to care about freedom anyhow.

  18. Jim August 14, 2006 at 7:28 pm #

    Wes – thanks for the links to the CNN story. Maybe no one has told Bush that it takes more than blowing up bridges in northern Lebanon and whacking farm workers near the Syrian border to win a victory.

    As far as whether anyone has explained Fourth Generation warfare to Bush – I don’t see evidence that his thinking has gotten beyond fraternity tug-of-wars.

  19. Original Steve August 14, 2006 at 7:37 pm #

    Busch beer, of course

  20. sauceman August 14, 2006 at 7:43 pm #

    Quote…”Dangerous to let some conservatives possess a world map.”

    LMAO Jim!

  21. Jim August 14, 2006 at 7:46 pm #

    Damn, I’m glad I asked.

    That’s enough to make me go cold turkey.

  22. Jim August 14, 2006 at 8:01 pm #

    On the conservatives & world maps – it would be fun to give some of these folks maps that were about 50 years old and see if they noticed that the changes in borders & country names.

    It is too bad a way cannot be found to redirect their energy into quarreling about the proper boundary between Jersey & Pennsylvania, or maybe between Queens & Suffolk County (or whatever the heck part of Long Island borders Queens).

  23. Lex Luthor August 15, 2006 at 3:22 am #

    The Lebanon opener paves the way for war on Iran, even with the Hezbollah ‘deterrent’ still in place.

    For example by providing an opportunity for Mossad and the CIA to discover that the Iranians (and the Syrians) will be arming Hezbollah–very possibly with WMD’s.

    You want Iran? Relax. It will happen. Rome wasn’t destroyed in a day.

    Bolton-Geoffrey Miller in 2008.

  24. Jumpmaster August 15, 2006 at 5:59 am #

    Interesting analysis! And still- no way one can compare the situation of Hisb´Allah in Lebanon with an attack on the Iran! The Iranian forces are well trained and superbly equipped with weapons of their own make (incl. MBT) as well as import from Russia, China, N.-Corea et al. The population is around 70 million and very young- and the distances are huge, the terrain really mountainous, very high like European Alps! Ideal for a defender. The coasts are fortified and a ground war is just unthinkable, no access for tanks or heavy arms, not through the mountains from South (Iraq), no access from turkey or Afghan. either. All important targets dugg in with heavy air-defence. Best stuff existing- not the notorious Patriots, real S-300 and others! Things the HisbAllah didnt have.
    Compared with the embarrassment for IDF in Lebanon the US would be in for a real desaster. You better tell those Neo-Cons: Hands off Iran- you will burn them badly.
    Best R.
    PS. How do I know about the Iran? I have been there!

  25. Jim August 15, 2006 at 7:39 am #

    Jumpmaster – you make good points on the perils of attacking Iran.

    But perhaps the key issue will be the trend line opinions from focus groups that Karl Rove convenes between now and the November congressional elections.

    The NeoCons lost nothing from the slaughter of U.S. forces and Iraqi civilians from the invasion of Iraq. Why should they worry about paying a price if their inane advice on Iran is followed?

  26. melvynadam August 15, 2006 at 9:23 am #

    You’re right, Bush *is* wrong. He said “I believe mothers around the world want to raise their children in a peaceful world”. Obviously, he’s never seen first hand the cries of JOY and cheers let out by mothers in Jenin when they get told that their son/daughter just killed a busload of Jewish civilians. Pure uncontrolled joy at the death of your own murderous child doesn’t come naturally to most mothers around the world. Welcome to peaceful Palestine.

  27. Jim August 15, 2006 at 9:39 am #

    So were the IDF’s Rules of Engagement for bombing Lebanon a triumph of humanity and concern for children?

  28. melvynadam August 15, 2006 at 3:00 pm #

    Like every civilised nation, Israel has this strange notion that it’s own civilians should be protected even at the expense of the innocents of her enemies. In a hangout like this it’s probably not worth pointing out the verifiable and oft-documented fact that Hizb’Allah use children as human shields. It probably doesn’t matter to you that not all children killed in this war were Lebanese. Two Arab Israeli brothers were murdered by a rocket while they played in the sreet. An Israeli Jewish kid was killed at the sabbath table with his grandmother.
    The IDF’s rules of engagement left under 800 Lebanese dead in a month of fighting.
    In 1945, the British killed over 30,000 civilians in ONE DAY (google “Moral bombing”).
    In 1945, the Americans killed over 140,000 civilians in ONE DAY (Hiroshima).
    In 2006 it’s alleged that Israel, in a fit of genocidal mania, killed 800 civilians in….. A MONTH!
    If you sincerely believe that the Israeli goal was civilian deaths, don’t you find the death toll a little strange?

  29. Jim August 15, 2006 at 4:05 pm #

    So if Israel kills fewer than 140,000 people in one day, the IDF’s killings should be considered morally negligible?

    Do the war crimes of the U.S. and Britain somehow sanctify the crimes of every subsequent government in perpetuity?

    The Israeli government has a long record of using methods and rules of engagement that kill large numbers of civilians. From 1993 to 1999, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) and its proxies (the South Lebanon Army) killed at least 355 Lebanese civilians while Muslim guerrillas in Lebanon killed 9 Israeli civilians,
    according to B’Tselem, Israel’s premier human rights organization.

    B’Tselem does great work – they are one of the most credible sources around — in the same way that the ACLU is an excellent source on many of the abuses by the Bush administration.

  30. melvynadam August 15, 2006 at 11:55 pm #

    I didn’t argue that the death toll in Lebanon was “morally negligible”. I argued that it is obvious to all that if the IDF wanted to kill civilians then 800 in a month is an incredibly low number for this highly trained, well equiped force.
    Anyone who sincerely believes that the Israelis were out on a murderous rampage would surely have difficulty exaplaining why they were so singularly unsuccessful at killing more of the south Lebanese.

  31. melvynadam August 16, 2006 at 1:26 am #

    The English and American *examples* show that an army that wants to kill civilians can kill tens of thousands in moments. Sixty years since those examples the Israelis have better equipment and easier targets. It’s entirely incredulous to argue that, if the IDF was deliberately targeting the civilian population of South Lebanon, they’d kill under 800 in a month. Incidentally, that death toll also includes Hizb’Allah terrorists.

  32. Jumpmaster August 16, 2006 at 2:38 am #

    To Melvynadam: You write
    “Like every civilised nation, Israel has this strange notion…”

    Civilised nations dont steal land and water, occupy foreign territory and start ethnical cleansing and daily killings of civilians- as is done (and has been for over 40 years- by israel against 4 million Palestinians. And then, as you do, to praise the slaughter of lebanese civilians as some sort of “moral achievement”, at least compared with the wholesale slaughter in Dresden, Hamburg, Hiroshima or Nagasaki, just to name a few, is something I consider just obscene.
    And: After what israel does to millions of Palestinineans- are you surprised that some people are full of joy when the oppressor gets hurt? Well, you shouldnt be.
    J.

  33. melvynadam August 16, 2006 at 4:04 am #

    Israel wasn’t “occupying” any Lebanese territory before they were dragged in by the racist Sheikh Nasrallah.
    Israel wasn’t “stealing land” from Lebanon. The UN verified that Israel had withdrawn from every square inch of occupied Lebanon six years ago. Just after Israel did so, Hizb’Allah (seeking justification for their continued existence as an armed wing of the Iranian army running a state-within-a-state in South Lebanon) said “wait – you missed a bit”. The Shebaa Farms are Syrian territory. Syria has quietly acquiesced to Hizb’Allah’s claim that the area is Lebanese but refuses to do so on paper. Want to know why? This’ll really amuse you – because Syria doesn’t recognise Lebanon’s right to exist! If Assad signs over the land he’ll have to declare on paper that Lebanon is a country with borders and rights. That’s not official Syrian policy so he can’t help Hizb’Allah make the claim! It’s all nonsense of course. Israel withdrew. Just as she withdrew from every inch of Gaza.
    The reason that the left-wing Israelis (who want endless dialog with, and overtures to, Palestinians) were so united behind this fight is simple: it was unprovoked aggression from two racist groups who have declared that Israeli civilians are deserving of death.
    I categorically reject the notion that Israel engages in “ethnic cleansing”. It’s simply ridiculous in light of the maths I’ve quoted above.
    If Israel wanted to commit genocide against the Palestinians, how many hours do you think it would take until there were no breathing Palestinians in Israel? Five? Six? The Israeli air force flew 7,000 flights over Lebanon and deployed between 10,000-30,000 troops on the ground. Thirty thousand ground troops and seven thousand air force flights led to fewer than eight hundred deaths. Are you that blind to the reality that the Israelis simply couldn’t have been trying to kill civilians?
    One further point, you are completely mistaken when you claim that I “praise the slaughter of Lebanese civilians”. All civilian deaths are tragic. Of course this site neglects any mention of Israeli (Jew or Arab) deaths. I believe that all civilian deaths are tragic. I also think it’s extremely naive to think you can have a war in which no civilians are killed. Here in the real world, innocents die in conflict. The question is who is being targeted. It’s clear when a bomber goes to a disco that he’s not aiming at a military institution. When an Iranian-made missile lands in a school yard the target can’t be described as “military”. If Israel wants to target Lebanese civilians then she would (a) do a better job and (b) celebrate the result. Instead Israel takes endless measures to avoid civilian casualties and apologises whenever she makes a mistake. Nasrallah cheers civilian deaths.
    You won’t see Israeli Jews having mass celebratory gatherings when thousands of civilians of any nation die. It just doesn’t happen. The street parties on 9/11 in Ramallah weren’t being thrown out of sadness at civilian deaths. Neither were the civilians who died on 9/11 “occupiers”, “stealers of water”, “cleansers of Palestinians”. They were non-Muslims. They were civilians. Their deaths were tragic but Osama’s a hero in Gaza.

  34. Jumpmaster August 16, 2006 at 9:40 am #

    Everybody, except for the exclusive readers of NY Post and the Fox viewers can “admire” the slaughterr of Palestinians DAILY- every night!
    Other than that I stand by each and every statement I have made above- all facts of life that may not be so well known in the US.
    BTW., which borders of israel do you consider legitimate, and in which territorry would you “jail” 4 million Palestinians? Where do you want to “accomodate” the Palestinians? No, Sir, never will there be a quiet day in the territory once called Palestine until the rightful owners, the Palestinians get back a minimum of a chance to make a decent living ON THEIR OWN LAND!
    J.

  35. Jumpmaster August 16, 2006 at 9:57 am #

    Hi Jim,
    I guess you are right- those “Neo-Cons” dont give a damn about anybody anhilliated in the execution of their mad plans. And still- I just thought I might mention what I consider serious risks for everybody involved- except the “Neo-Cons”, they never smell gun-powder. (Well, out hunting sometimes…). Lets not forget: The risk is on US-soldiers also. And lets also not forget: Neo-Cons never consider US-interests!
    Best J.

  36. Jim August 16, 2006 at 10:28 am #

    NeoCons going hunting?

    There’s Dick Cheney.

    Can you name a second one?

    These are not Gordon-Liddy-types, endlessly salivating about their personal arsenals and the latest breakthroughs in high tech ammo.

    Unfortunately, some NeoCons seem to believe that the only conceivable US interest is for the US government to rule the world. And they are willing to sacrifice an unlimited number of foreigners & Americans to fulfill their world-historical vision (or at least what they heard in grad school).

  37. melvynadam August 16, 2006 at 4:01 pm #

    Not quite sure what happened. One minute I was making logical coherent points. The next I was being ignored in favour of a discussion on hunting. I suppose the truth about Ramallah street parties celebrating the destruction of US civilians is too uncomfortable for some people to hear? The fact that seven thousand IAF flights and thirty thousand troops weren’t out raping, looting and pillaging all day and night for thirty days in South Lebanon is just too inconvenient and doesn’t fit into your world beliefs. Don’t let me disturb your alternate reality – you all go back to discussing hunting. Lest you let some truth into your Israel bashing.

  38. PowerSoldier One August 17, 2006 at 11:11 pm #

    War with Iran: Let The Generals and Soldiers Fight It…RUTHLESSY!!!

    The problem with the average dumb political lackey is they’re not ruthless
    enough when it comes to war.

    When you’re talking WAR with Iran we’re talking about seriously trained,
    multi-millon strong and energetic young
    folk armed to the teeth with the latest Russian, Chinese and Iranian made
    weapons.

    So if you want a war with Iran, you’d better fight an all-out-one like what
    we did to Dresden except 200,000 times worse.

    These are my suggestions as a REAL soldier who knows what he is doing,
    as to…

    HOW TO UTTERLY DEFEAT IRAN:

    1) Purloin 200 Boeing 747-400 series
    Commercial Air Freighters
    from the private sector. There are
    currently about that many
    available that can be had within
    10 days for leasing
    within the US market alone.

    A 747-400 cargo frieghter can carry
    124 tons (113,000 kg/547,000 lbs)
    of cargo up to 4450 nautical miles
    and has a ceiling of up to
    48 thousand feet with slight
    modification to the engines.
    These would keep it out of range
    of many SAM’s (Surface to Air
    Missiles) that would be fired by
    the enemy.

    2) We use the common two-litre plastic
    pop-bottle that usually contains
    Cola or other types of fizzy drink
    and replace the fluid with gasoline.
    These bottles are ideal because they
    are designed for pressurization
    due to the carbon dioxide used in
    fizzy drinks and can take a beating
    during shipping. We replace the
    bottle caps with cheap (but safe)
    detonation caps which turn a single
    two-litre bottle of gasoline
    into a very powerful incendiary
    device which we have tested to
    have a lethal explosive force
    projection of 16 square metres
    (154 square feet)and secondary
    fire-starting effects over 100 square
    meters.

    These bottles are cheap and fast to
    obtain plus current daily U.S.
    production of these 2-litre bottles
    is over 5 million every day.

    Using current production lines
    purloined from the private sector,
    we can realistically fill 3 million
    two-litre bottles per day with either
    simple high-octane gasoline or we can
    add liquid styrene under pressure to
    make a bomb that is similar to a
    napalm incendiary.

    3) A ground crew of 10 can load 45,000
    bottles of these devices
    onto a 747-400 and turn the plane
    around for a sortie in 2.5 hours.

    With gravity feed and simple
    targeting mechanisms, we expect the
    force projection of each incendiary
    device to have an effective
    scatter factor of 50 bombs
    per 40,000 square meters which
    calculates out to 36,000,000 square
    meters (3.6 square km/2.2 square
    miles) of highly effective force
    projection per sortie.

    Each 747 can fly 5 sorties per 24
    hour day dropping 225,000 incendiary
    devices onto an enemy and rain a hell
    fire over 18 sq km (10.9 square
    miles). Two hundred 747’s over 10
    days can thus create a hurricane of
    fire over 18,000 square km (10,980
    square miles). Over 100 days we could
    obliterate 180,000 square km
    (or 110 thousand square miles) or
    almost half of Iran using simple and
    effective fire bombs. It would make
    Dresden look like a warm day at the
    park.

    4) We use simple 200 litre (55 gallon)
    plastic drums to deliver thousand
    of tonnes of liquid Flourine and
    dump it onto major Iranian rivers,
    streams and water reservoirs.
    Flourine ignites into a raging fire
    when it comes into contact with water
    and since many communities
    are located near water bodies, the
    burning water would skip
    onto dry land and ignite whole
    villages, towns and even cities.
    And because the Flourine tends to
    flow, there is a high likelihood
    of creating firestorms that create
    huge hurricane-force drafts igniting
    everything in its path and thus
    causing a massive force-multiplier
    effect over a large area.

    5) Insertion of special forces into
    gas-producing regions that
    have high concentrations of
    sour-gas wells. We target the
    easiest wells to blow and let the
    clouds of sour gas flow into
    surrounding areas causing
    enourmous disruptions as the
    hazardous and suffocating
    hydrogen sulfide gas wafts into
    populated areas.

    6) Since many drinking reservoirs are
    near heavily populated cities we dump
    CO/CO2 reactants into them that cause
    runaway production of massive clouds
    of Carbon Monoxide gas that will flow
    into the lowest regions of populated
    areas.

    Since the combatants and civilian
    populations will tend to congregate
    in bunkers or basements during our
    bombardment, their shelters will turn
    into their tombs as the clouds of
    rapidly moving Carbon Monoxide gas
    suffocates the inhabitants.
    CO does not dissipate into the
    atmosphere like CO2 would and forms
    large concentrations that flow like
    water. We would do this at night
    when most inhabitants are asleep
    in their basements or underground
    shelters.

    7) Specially produced microbes that eat
    petroleum-based products such as
    tires, rubber, plastic and even the
    tar-based pavement of roads
    would reduce their transportation
    infrastructure into ruin.
    These microbes ingest the
    petroleum-based products and turn it
    into alcohol and rapidly break down
    the harder material into
    a jelly-like substance.

    These microbes have short 3 day shelf
    lives and are now just coming onto
    the market usually used for
    environmental cleanup but in our case
    it has significant military value.
    We can currently produce about 100
    tonnes per day which could destroy
    about 1000 square km. We focus the
    dumping of the hydrocarbon
    fractioners onto only the most
    valuable targets such as refineries
    and foodstuff production systems.

    8) Then for the coup-de-grace,
    hundreds-of-thousands of tons
    of Ethylene Glycol (simple
    Anti-freeze) can be targeted
    for dumping onto farms and
    food-growing areas and into water
    reservoirs. If the firestorms
    doesn’t get the natives, the
    starvation willafter we poison their
    food and water supply which will
    finish the job within 3 months.
    The Ethylene Glycol will break down
    in about two years, environmentally
    it’s definitely not as bad as using
    nuclear weapons.

    In conclusion, we can completely bring
    Iran to it’s knees without the use of
    huge numebrs of land-forces, only
    if we have gumption and ruthlessness
    to do so using simple off-the-shelf,
    commercially available supplies and
    technology.

    This scenario is but one of the many non-traditional modes of combat designed and simulated by our warfighters.
    We know it works, we just have to use it and use it at full force with NO
    holding back. They want a war,
    let’s givem one they’ll NEVER forget!

    Active Scenario

    by

    PowerSoldier One

  39. Jumpmaster August 19, 2006 at 2:27 am #

    Mmmhhhh… this is a serious case. But there are specialized doctors even for those cases.
    BTW. Who told you “they” want war? War is spread in the ME by the US on
    behalf of israel through a clique named Nero-Cons.
    BTW. BTW.
    “So if you want a war with Iran, you’d better fight an all-out-one like what
    we did to Dresden except 200,000 times worse.”
    You are definitely no soldier, otherwise you would not confuse war with murder. Or are these the US- rules of engagement by now.
    J.

  40. THOROUGH August 19, 2006 at 10:07 pm #

    Nothing to wary about. The U.S will invade Iran and will be just another reginal war will soon be forgotten. China wants oil, and keep its interest in Iran’s oil, The U.S has a great interest in Chinas’ economy. Before any war take place The U.S will strike deals with China to ease its fears as well as deals with Russia, and let them know that their interest will stay no matter what government comes up in Iran. Even if Iran has nukes and even if the Iranians are willing to use them. The US will still attack, and Iran will lose and to everybody’s surprise very fast.

  41. melvynadam August 20, 2006 at 3:41 am #

    I deplore the idea of large scale indiscriminate murder as practised by Japan, Germany, the US and the UK in WW2. I also deplore the above suggestion to do the same.
    Now to Jumpmaster’s question: “Who told you “they” want war?”. Do you listen to the speeches of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad? Perhaps you don’t understand Farsi but you could certainly read the English transcripts. He’s not seeking a peaceful world free of wars. He’s also not calling out for just the destruction of the Jews. He most definitely wants a huge, global war leading to the restoration of the Islamic empire. Or perhaps you think the Mossad/CIA/boogeyman are writing his speeches for him?

  42. passin trhu September 16, 2006 at 10:14 pm #

    The US will invade Iran, and will spend a shitload of money… why?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_industry

  43. auwal gidado February 18, 2008 at 5:23 pm #

    the day the US invade Iran will be the beginning of end for it.Iran is no Iraq.American interest the world over will come under attack as Iran has diehard supporters who are ready to die for her.