AntiWar Issue in FLA Primary???

Are any of the candidates in tomorrow’s presidential primaries in Florida running advertisements criticizing the Iraq war?  Are any of the candidates making opposition to the Iraq war their premier issue?

Is the antiwar issue being raised in the media or in Q & A with candidates?

Has anybody seen polls on which candidates are favored by voters who opposed the war?

The Washington Post yesterday made the GOP race sound like a contest on who could be most bellicose on Iraq. Is that how the race looks on the ground in FLA?


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16 Responses to AntiWar Issue in FLA Primary???

  1. Dirk W. Sabin January 28, 2008 at 11:45 am #

    The lapsed Republic has it’s head so far up its ass that the war efforts will continue on until we’ve insured that whatever recovery we make will be as painful as possible. Fear is the only thing keeping the Public from actually acting on their complete understanding that Washington DC is a festering pit of ongoing criminal activity that needs a RICO refresher course.

    So , we’ll hear the mantra, “prudent” or “measured withdrawl to insure victory” that is nothing so much as cheering on the horse that broke it’s leg and is lying in front of the starting gate, thrashing and screaming

  2. Ryan January 28, 2008 at 3:48 pm #

    After the way the RNC and its various allies in the “new” media have gone out of their way to smear Dr. Paul it is my sincere hope that if Paul doesn’t get the nomination, that the Stupid party take such huge losses this year that they go the way of the Whigs. They are a totally corrupt institution.

  3. Mark Golding January 28, 2008 at 5:11 pm #

    Tribalism has become so sophisticated that it relies heavily on the expertise of technocratic specialists, comprising an army of white coats beavering away in their State/Industry funded research establishments, who produces nothing but military systems of control.
    The science of social welfare reveals nothing but relative values and virtues that, when compromised by the political expedience of protecting by brute force the interests of a group of people sharing a common identity, become even more abstract and meaningless to those who are targettted as the ‘enemy’.
    This human generation, aka race, has no narrative capable of defining utopia irrespective of which historical or cultural precedent is used as a compass bearing because language is all about domination and control. In art, education, industry, production, culture, history the national perspective is the dominant agenda and no policital counter movement has ever been able to alter the political substance of tribalism – the juggernaut Collective of souls paying into and subscribing to the imperial expansion of their realm, their nation, their principality.
    I’ve read a lot of inciteful and stimulating social and political commentary, which has been mainly entertaining, but none have come up with a clue as to how the public devise a plan of action that might rid the world of TRIBALISM.

  4. Tom Blanton January 28, 2008 at 7:25 pm #

    Why in the world would the Iraq War be an issue? Since the wonderful surge worked so well, the war has been essentially won. We should be leaving in just few decades. Of course the mainstream media doesn’t give you all this good news.

    The main issue now is which candidate will be able to keep the fantastic Bush economy going – the best economy America has ever had.

    It probably doesn’t matter who the next President is since Bush has done such a wonderful job. Unfortunately, most people just don’t know how great everything is because the media never tells them the good news.

  5. Jim January 28, 2008 at 8:23 pm #

    At least Fox News shares the good news.

  6. Jim January 28, 2008 at 8:32 pm #

    I also posted this blog entry over at –

    “Rick,” who is in FLA, talked about a Ron Paul ad he is hearing during the primary campaign: “I’ve heard Ron’s ad on WINZ, which runs “progressive talk” like Ed Schultz, Mike Malloy and some of the Air America people. So it’s mostly Dems and lefties listening, certainly mostly anti-war. The ad itself is kind of a generic introduction of Ron’s history as a doctor, his military service, as a congressman, as an upholder of the constitution. As I recall, no mention of the war in Iraq. “

  7. Jim January 28, 2008 at 8:33 pm #

    also plucked from the AWC blog –
    Scott commented –
    Jim, Three new nonwar ads here:

    What the…?

  8. The Infamous Oregon Lawhobbit January 29, 2008 at 10:58 am #

    Mark, I think tribalism is encoded into our genes – good luck on getting rid of it. 😀

    And Jim – still no email going through. I’m definitely feeling off the Christmas Card List.

  9. Mark Golding January 29, 2008 at 7:11 pm #

    Oh blame Gene for everything – scapegoatology isn’t science. Nevermind, the motto ‘strength through industry and technology’ is probably encoded into the gene pool also.

  10. Tom Blanton January 29, 2008 at 10:09 pm #

    They are running Ron Paul ads in Richmond that are exactly as the one described above – except there is a blurb about Ron Paul believing that doctors and patients should control health care, not government and big corporations. It is a pretty good ad, but no mention of any war (or of a dollar gone down the toilet).

  11. Jim January 29, 2008 at 10:58 pm #

    Those ads aren’t going to bring people to the voting booth.

    Three percent.


  12. The Infamous Oregon Lawhobbit January 29, 2008 at 11:22 pm #

    Three percent. Fairly constant.

    Well, I guess we know what percentage of Americans are somewhat in tune with the concepts of liberty and freedom.

  13. Jim January 29, 2008 at 11:29 pm #

    But this was not the message of the RP ad campaign.

    It was a very soft approach that, as far as I know, made no mention of RP’s opposition to the Iraq War.

    The campaign seems to be burying his best issue.

  14. Ryan January 30, 2008 at 12:54 am #

    We do have this to look forward to tomorrow. With Guiliani out they will be hard pressed to short change Paul on the time. Think of all the entertainment that one can see from watching Paul ask McCain economic questions? Maybe he can ask McCain if he has gain any knowlege about the housing bubble from reading Greenspan’s memoirs? Who knows, he could cause McCain to through a fit up there on stage.

  15. The Infamous Oregon Lawhobbit January 30, 2008 at 10:47 am #

    Ryan, Ryan, Ryan….they won’t be “hard pressed” to do anything. They will take all of the time and wordage that Giuliani has gotten and divide it among what the Oregonian called “the legitimate Republican candidates.”

    Quoting Yahoo: “That leaves only McCain and Romney with a serious shot at the nomination.”

  16. Ryan January 30, 2008 at 9:52 pm #


    Damn if you weren’t right. That’s what I get for not being my normal, cynical self. This was going to be awful when I saw that the questions were “sent in”. Cooper takes place with the other two Chrises who shouldn’t be allowed to moderate “debates”. Wallace and Matthews. Bring back Carolyn Washburn of DeMoine Register fame. There is no way she would have allowed Romney and the dispicable McCain to have engaged in their histronics nor would she have asked such stupid questions.