Israel’s war on Lebanon is a warm-up for the U.S. war on Iran.
That is the message of Seymour Hersh’s latest superb article in the New Yorker. Hersh reveals that the Bush administration was “closely involved” in planning Israel’s attacks on Lebanon. A former senior intelligence official informed Hersh that, beginning this Spring, “planners from the U.S. Air Force—under pressure from the White House to develop a war plan for a decisive strike against Iran’s nuclear facilities—began consulting with their counterparts in the Israeli Air Force.”
Hersh notes:
The surprising strength of Hezbollah’s resistance, and its continuing ability to fire rockets into northern Israel in the face of the constant Israeli bombing, the Middle East expert told me, “is a massive setback for those in the White House who want to use force in Iran. And those who argue that the bombing will create internal dissent and revolt in Iran are also set back.”
Israel is following its own agenda. But a Pentagon consultant informed Hersh that the Bush White House “has been agitating for some time to find a reason for a preëmptive blow against Hezbollah.” Hezbollah’s capture of two Israeli soldiers last month provided the pretext for a massive bombing campaign than had been planned long before.
The Bush team is chomping at the bit to use the “lessons” from Israel’s war for its own on Iran. A former intelligence officer told Hersh: “We told Israel, ‘Look, if you guys have to go, we’re behind you all the way. But we think it should be sooner rather than later—the longer you wait, the less time we have to evaluate and plan for Iran before Bush gets out of office.’” The Bush team apparently believes that they are entitled to create a few more catastrophes before Bush’s time runs out.
Hersh highlights the harebrained notion underlying the Israeli bombing campaign: “Israel believed that, by targeting Lebanon’s infrastructure, including highways, fuel depots, and even the civilian runways at the main Beirut airport, it could persuade Lebanon’s large Christian and Sunni populations to turn against Hezbollah, according to the former senior intelligence official.”
This has backfired massively. And yet the Bush administration appears to still believe that a U.S. bombing campaign in Iran would turn the Iranian people against the Iranian government.
There is no evidence that Bush or Cheney have yet recognized any drawbacks, political or otherwise, from sending Americans off to die for damnfool ideas.
Does team Bush get a commission on each war they start? Or maybe they get paid by the corpse? How many wars does Bush think he can fight at once?
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Sol – I don’t know if somebody somewhere gets a bonus for the corpses – sort of like Benjamin Franklin derided the Hessian king for during the Revolutionary War. Hessian conscripts were sent to help the Brits suppress the Americans, and the payment schedule was suspect.
As for your final question – How many wars does Bush think he can fight at once? +
Unless you count the Battle of the Bottle, Bush has never fought any war.
On the ‘G. George’ comment – it is always appreciated when people add subtlely to the comment board.
There might be some kind of bonus for putting new ideas in the Imperium Americanus suggestion box. The other day I heard Ann Coulter say that the U.S. should invade Cuba next.
Dangerous to let some conservatives possess a world map.
Ya, the next thing you know, they’ll be throwing darts at the map to pick the next target to invade next.
Considering how the Bush administration seems to ignore all the non-halfwit information generated by the CIA, it would be cheaper simply to shut down the US intelligence agencies and buy dart boards to post all over the White House.
There are other possible upsides to having everyone in the White House throwing darts, esp. after a few drinks.
Jim,
Let’s forget about the immorality and unconstitutional aspects of our participation in more war in the Middle East. What was really amazing was to read that Bush & Co. would evaluate and structure an Iranian strike based on the Lebanese theatre. What are these folks smoking? Lebanon may be the biggest polyglot in the Middle East. It has taken several weeks of constant bombing and shelling to cement Lebanese Christian, Druze, Sunni, Alawite support for the Shia Hezbollah, but it has happened. Of course, these fractured groups have little or no military strength – even when they are united. Iran, on the other hand, is homogeneous by comparison. Yes, they have a few Christians, Jews, and Kurds, but Shia Islam is about 90% (see Wikipedia entries for both Lebanon and Iran). Add to this the fact that 2/3 of the Iranian population is under 30, relatively well-educated (80% literacy), and are tired of seeing the US destroy their brethren in Iraq. On top of this the disruption of Iranian oil would send oil prices to above $150/barrel crude. Dubdub is about to tear into the biggest hornet’s nest that not even he, in his wildest Quixotic dreams, could ever imagine.
Wes, so you don’t think the Iranian people want to be free?
It is amazing how much of the Bush team appears to actually buy into the Bush BS. And now they are racing on deadline to start more wars before Bush’s entitlement to kill expires on January 20, 2009….
Jim,
I know if I were Iranian I would certainly want to be free…free of the US and its preëminent, first State, Israel! My Lord, the US is doing everything it can to encourage Iran to go nuclear, and we are making them more wealthy with the war-caused high prices of oil (I know China and Indian demands have driven up prices, but a large component of oil prices have been the Iraqi disaster). I mean what right thinking Iranian physicist wouldn’t redouble his efforts. As Pakistan and North Korea have proven beyond a shadow of doubt, if you want to the US bully to leave you alone, get a friggin’ nuclear weapon.
Surely, surely the US population would not stand for an even bigger debacle than Iraq, viz., Iran.
“Surely, surely…” The American people would not stand for going to war against Iran – unless BUsh said it was in our national interest. Or unless there was another terror attack. Or unless the feds can round up some nitwits who claim to be planning mischief in the name of Iran.
Remember that at the time that Bush launched the war against Iraq, most Americans believed that Saddam had been behind 9/11.
We have all had these “they have gone too far” moments since the Summer of ’03. However, this time I am pretty sure that any sort of invasion of or air attack against Iran will be the end of the Bush people either short or long term. By this, I mean impeachment.
Even if we do have the strongest military on earth, the Iranians are not going to just sit there with us on their border and an active insurgency in Iraq and not use it to their advantage. Bush may be a man possessed with little talent, table manners or intellect but for Crimminy’s sakes I can’t believe that even he would be stupid enough to go ahead and attack Iran.
My thoughts on this are that he and his band of merry Neocons wanted to invade, in short order, Iraq, Iran and then North Korea. Obviously they never finished step 1.
It just aint gonna happen, and if it does it will be the biggest long term disaster in American History, surpassing Vietnam, Iraq and Slavery.
Thus spake Steve
Jim,
Attached is a link to a CNN piece where the ‘Pontificator’ (his other hat besides, “Decider”) declares Hezbollah suffered defeat http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/14/bush/index.html. Says Bush, “How can you claim victory when you were state within a state in southern Lebanon, and now you’re going to be replaced by an international force?”
Can someone please explain Fourth Generation warfare to Bush? Hezbollah still exist. They didn’t have to conquer Tel Aviv or Jerusalem to win. They won by existing. Even in numbers game, Hezbollah won if William Lind’s numbers are correct. (http://antiwar.com/lind/)
Justin Raimondo also has a good piece on the ‘chest beating’. http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=9533
All that said, perhaps the Bushites secretly understand this for what it is: propaganda at the end of a defeat and will take their bloody eyes off Iran!
One can hope!
Steve – Alas, I lack your faith in Bush’s learning curve and/or in the Democrats’ gumption (in impeaching him if he goes to war again).
Bush’s comments at the State Department today (available here http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/14/AR2006081400699.html ) sound like he is as clueless as ever. And people in Washington still nod their heads respectfully when he emits this kind of drivel.
Hopefully we will never see it happen but I would be willing to bet that brewski that if they hit Iran overtly that will be the end of W’s Presidency.
Drivel? Yes, I saw the Lisa Myers report on terror on MSNBC last night and heard his “they hate freedom” spiel. Sounded like absolute babble.
What sort of brew we talking about here? Lager or ale?
I have been fascinated by the Washington – or perhaps Northeast Corridor – Establishment’s tolerance and applause for this type of “freedom” drivel. Maybe I should not be surprised, since most of these dignitaries never seemed to care about freedom anyhow.
Wes – thanks for the links to the CNN story. Maybe no one has told Bush that it takes more than blowing up bridges in northern Lebanon and whacking farm workers near the Syrian border to win a victory.
As far as whether anyone has explained Fourth Generation warfare to Bush – I don’t see evidence that his thinking has gotten beyond fraternity tug-of-wars.
Busch beer, of course
Quote…”Dangerous to let some conservatives possess a world map.”
LMAO Jim!
Damn, I’m glad I asked.
That’s enough to make me go cold turkey.
On the conservatives & world maps – it would be fun to give some of these folks maps that were about 50 years old and see if they noticed that the changes in borders & country names.
It is too bad a way cannot be found to redirect their energy into quarreling about the proper boundary between Jersey & Pennsylvania, or maybe between Queens & Suffolk County (or whatever the heck part of Long Island borders Queens).
The Lebanon opener paves the way for war on Iran, even with the Hezbollah ‘deterrent’ still in place.
For example by providing an opportunity for Mossad and the CIA to discover that the Iranians (and the Syrians) will be arming Hezbollah–very possibly with WMD’s.
You want Iran? Relax. It will happen. Rome wasn’t destroyed in a day.
Bolton-Geoffrey Miller in 2008.
Interesting analysis! And still- no way one can compare the situation of Hisb´Allah in Lebanon with an attack on the Iran! The Iranian forces are well trained and superbly equipped with weapons of their own make (incl. MBT) as well as import from Russia, China, N.-Corea et al. The population is around 70 million and very young- and the distances are huge, the terrain really mountainous, very high like European Alps! Ideal for a defender. The coasts are fortified and a ground war is just unthinkable, no access for tanks or heavy arms, not through the mountains from South (Iraq), no access from turkey or Afghan. either. All important targets dugg in with heavy air-defence. Best stuff existing- not the notorious Patriots, real S-300 and others! Things the HisbAllah didnt have.
Compared with the embarrassment for IDF in Lebanon the US would be in for a real desaster. You better tell those Neo-Cons: Hands off Iran- you will burn them badly.
Best R.
PS. How do I know about the Iran? I have been there!
Jumpmaster – you make good points on the perils of attacking Iran.
But perhaps the key issue will be the trend line opinions from focus groups that Karl Rove convenes between now and the November congressional elections.
The NeoCons lost nothing from the slaughter of U.S. forces and Iraqi civilians from the invasion of Iraq. Why should they worry about paying a price if their inane advice on Iran is followed?
You’re right, Bush *is* wrong. He said “I believe mothers around the world want to raise their children in a peaceful world”. Obviously, he’s never seen first hand the cries of JOY and cheers let out by mothers in Jenin when they get told that their son/daughter just killed a busload of Jewish civilians. Pure uncontrolled joy at the death of your own murderous child doesn’t come naturally to most mothers around the world. Welcome to peaceful Palestine.
So were the IDF’s Rules of Engagement for bombing Lebanon a triumph of humanity and concern for children?
Like every civilised nation, Israel has this strange notion that it’s own civilians should be protected even at the expense of the innocents of her enemies. In a hangout like this it’s probably not worth pointing out the verifiable and oft-documented fact that Hizb’Allah use children as human shields. It probably doesn’t matter to you that not all children killed in this war were Lebanese. Two Arab Israeli brothers were murdered by a rocket while they played in the sreet. An Israeli Jewish kid was killed at the sabbath table with his grandmother.
The IDF’s rules of engagement left under 800 Lebanese dead in a month of fighting.
In 1945, the British killed over 30,000 civilians in ONE DAY (google “Moral bombing”).
In 1945, the Americans killed over 140,000 civilians in ONE DAY (Hiroshima).
In 2006 it’s alleged that Israel, in a fit of genocidal mania, killed 800 civilians in….. A MONTH!
If you sincerely believe that the Israeli goal was civilian deaths, don’t you find the death toll a little strange?
So if Israel kills fewer than 140,000 people in one day, the IDF’s killings should be considered morally negligible?
Do the war crimes of the U.S. and Britain somehow sanctify the crimes of every subsequent government in perpetuity?
The Israeli government has a long record of using methods and rules of engagement that kill large numbers of civilians. From 1993 to 1999, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) and its proxies (the South Lebanon Army) killed at least 355 Lebanese civilians while Muslim guerrillas in Lebanon killed 9 Israeli civilians,
according to B’Tselem, Israel’s premier human rights organization.
B’Tselem does great work – they are one of the most credible sources around — in the same way that the ACLU is an excellent source on many of the abuses by the Bush administration.
I didn’t argue that the death toll in Lebanon was “morally negligible”. I argued that it is obvious to all that if the IDF wanted to kill civilians then 800 in a month is an incredibly low number for this highly trained, well equiped force.
Anyone who sincerely believes that the Israelis were out on a murderous rampage would surely have difficulty exaplaining why they were so singularly unsuccessful at killing more of the south Lebanese.
The English and American *examples* show that an army that wants to kill civilians can kill tens of thousands in moments. Sixty years since those examples the Israelis have better equipment and easier targets. It’s entirely incredulous to argue that, if the IDF was deliberately targeting the civilian population of South Lebanon, they’d kill under 800 in a month. Incidentally, that death toll also includes Hizb’Allah terrorists.
To Melvynadam: You write
“Like every civilised nation, Israel has this strange notion…”
Civilised nations dont steal land and water, occupy foreign territory and start ethnical cleansing and daily killings of civilians- as is done (and has been for over 40 years- by israel against 4 million Palestinians. And then, as you do, to praise the slaughter of lebanese civilians as some sort of “moral achievement”, at least compared with the wholesale slaughter in Dresden, Hamburg, Hiroshima or Nagasaki, just to name a few, is something I consider just obscene.
And: After what israel does to millions of Palestinineans- are you surprised that some people are full of joy when the oppressor gets hurt? Well, you shouldnt be.
J.
Israel wasn’t “occupying” any Lebanese territory before they were dragged in by the racist Sheikh Nasrallah.
Israel wasn’t “stealing land” from Lebanon. The UN verified that Israel had withdrawn from every square inch of occupied Lebanon six years ago. Just after Israel did so, Hizb’Allah (seeking justification for their continued existence as an armed wing of the Iranian army running a state-within-a-state in South Lebanon) said “wait – you missed a bit”. The Shebaa Farms are Syrian territory. Syria has quietly acquiesced to Hizb’Allah’s claim that the area is Lebanese but refuses to do so on paper. Want to know why? This’ll really amuse you – because Syria doesn’t recognise Lebanon’s right to exist! If Assad signs over the land he’ll have to declare on paper that Lebanon is a country with borders and rights. That’s not official Syrian policy so he can’t help Hizb’Allah make the claim! It’s all nonsense of course. Israel withdrew. Just as she withdrew from every inch of Gaza.
The reason that the left-wing Israelis (who want endless dialog with, and overtures to, Palestinians) were so united behind this fight is simple: it was unprovoked aggression from two racist groups who have declared that Israeli civilians are deserving of death.
I categorically reject the notion that Israel engages in “ethnic cleansing”. It’s simply ridiculous in light of the maths I’ve quoted above.
If Israel wanted to commit genocide against the Palestinians, how many hours do you think it would take until there were no breathing Palestinians in Israel? Five? Six? The Israeli air force flew 7,000 flights over Lebanon and deployed between 10,000-30,000 troops on the ground. Thirty thousand ground troops and seven thousand air force flights led to fewer than eight hundred deaths. Are you that blind to the reality that the Israelis simply couldn’t have been trying to kill civilians?
One further point, you are completely mistaken when you claim that I “praise the slaughter of Lebanese civilians”. All civilian deaths are tragic. Of course this site neglects any mention of Israeli (Jew or Arab) deaths. I believe that all civilian deaths are tragic. I also think it’s extremely naive to think you can have a war in which no civilians are killed. Here in the real world, innocents die in conflict. The question is who is being targeted. It’s clear when a bomber goes to a disco that he’s not aiming at a military institution. When an Iranian-made missile lands in a school yard the target can’t be described as “military”. If Israel wants to target Lebanese civilians then she would (a) do a better job and (b) celebrate the result. Instead Israel takes endless measures to avoid civilian casualties and apologises whenever she makes a mistake. Nasrallah cheers civilian deaths.
You won’t see Israeli Jews having mass celebratory gatherings when thousands of civilians of any nation die. It just doesn’t happen. The street parties on 9/11 in Ramallah weren’t being thrown out of sadness at civilian deaths. Neither were the civilians who died on 9/11 “occupiers”, “stealers of water”, “cleansers of Palestinians”. They were non-Muslims. They were civilians. Their deaths were tragic but Osama’s a hero in Gaza.
Everybody, except for the exclusive readers of NY Post and the Fox viewers can “admire” the slaughterr of Palestinians DAILY- every night!
Other than that I stand by each and every statement I have made above- all facts of life that may not be so well known in the US.
BTW., which borders of israel do you consider legitimate, and in which territorry would you “jail” 4 million Palestinians? Where do you want to “accomodate” the Palestinians? No, Sir, never will there be a quiet day in the territory once called Palestine until the rightful owners, the Palestinians get back a minimum of a chance to make a decent living ON THEIR OWN LAND!
J.
Hi Jim,
I guess you are right- those “Neo-Cons” dont give a damn about anybody anhilliated in the execution of their mad plans. And still- I just thought I might mention what I consider serious risks for everybody involved- except the “Neo-Cons”, they never smell gun-powder. (Well, out hunting sometimes…). Lets not forget: The risk is on US-soldiers also. And lets also not forget: Neo-Cons never consider US-interests!
Best J.
NeoCons going hunting?
There’s Dick Cheney.
Can you name a second one?
These are not Gordon-Liddy-types, endlessly salivating about their personal arsenals and the latest breakthroughs in high tech ammo.
Unfortunately, some NeoCons seem to believe that the only conceivable US interest is for the US government to rule the world. And they are willing to sacrifice an unlimited number of foreigners & Americans to fulfill their world-historical vision (or at least what they heard in grad school).
Not quite sure what happened. One minute I was making logical coherent points. The next I was being ignored in favour of a discussion on hunting. I suppose the truth about Ramallah street parties celebrating the destruction of US civilians is too uncomfortable for some people to hear? The fact that seven thousand IAF flights and thirty thousand troops weren’t out raping, looting and pillaging all day and night for thirty days in South Lebanon is just too inconvenient and doesn’t fit into your world beliefs. Don’t let me disturb your alternate reality – you all go back to discussing hunting. Lest you let some truth into your Israel bashing.
War with Iran: Let The Generals and Soldiers Fight It…RUTHLESSY!!!
The problem with the average dumb political lackey is they’re not ruthless
enough when it comes to war.
When you’re talking WAR with Iran we’re talking about seriously trained,
multi-millon strong and energetic young
folk armed to the teeth with the latest Russian, Chinese and Iranian made
weapons.
So if you want a war with Iran, you’d better fight an all-out-one like what
we did to Dresden except 200,000 times worse.
These are my suggestions as a REAL soldier who knows what he is doing,
as to…
HOW TO UTTERLY DEFEAT IRAN:
1) Purloin 200 Boeing 747-400 series
Commercial Air Freighters
from the private sector. There are
currently about that many
available that can be had within
10 days for leasing
within the US market alone.
A 747-400 cargo frieghter can carry
124 tons (113,000 kg/547,000 lbs)
of cargo up to 4450 nautical miles
and has a ceiling of up to
48 thousand feet with slight
modification to the engines.
These would keep it out of range
of many SAM’s (Surface to Air
Missiles) that would be fired by
the enemy.
2) We use the common two-litre plastic
pop-bottle that usually contains
Cola or other types of fizzy drink
and replace the fluid with gasoline.
These bottles are ideal because they
are designed for pressurization
due to the carbon dioxide used in
fizzy drinks and can take a beating
during shipping. We replace the
bottle caps with cheap (but safe)
detonation caps which turn a single
two-litre bottle of gasoline
into a very powerful incendiary
device which we have tested to
have a lethal explosive force
projection of 16 square metres
(154 square feet)and secondary
fire-starting effects over 100 square
meters.
These bottles are cheap and fast to
obtain plus current daily U.S.
production of these 2-litre bottles
is over 5 million every day.
Using current production lines
purloined from the private sector,
we can realistically fill 3 million
two-litre bottles per day with either
simple high-octane gasoline or we can
add liquid styrene under pressure to
make a bomb that is similar to a
napalm incendiary.
3) A ground crew of 10 can load 45,000
bottles of these devices
onto a 747-400 and turn the plane
around for a sortie in 2.5 hours.
With gravity feed and simple
targeting mechanisms, we expect the
force projection of each incendiary
device to have an effective
scatter factor of 50 bombs
per 40,000 square meters which
calculates out to 36,000,000 square
meters (3.6 square km/2.2 square
miles) of highly effective force
projection per sortie.
Each 747 can fly 5 sorties per 24
hour day dropping 225,000 incendiary
devices onto an enemy and rain a hell
fire over 18 sq km (10.9 square
miles). Two hundred 747’s over 10
days can thus create a hurricane of
fire over 18,000 square km (10,980
square miles). Over 100 days we could
obliterate 180,000 square km
(or 110 thousand square miles) or
almost half of Iran using simple and
effective fire bombs. It would make
Dresden look like a warm day at the
park.
4) We use simple 200 litre (55 gallon)
plastic drums to deliver thousand
of tonnes of liquid Flourine and
dump it onto major Iranian rivers,
streams and water reservoirs.
Flourine ignites into a raging fire
when it comes into contact with water
and since many communities
are located near water bodies, the
burning water would skip
onto dry land and ignite whole
villages, towns and even cities.
And because the Flourine tends to
flow, there is a high likelihood
of creating firestorms that create
huge hurricane-force drafts igniting
everything in its path and thus
causing a massive force-multiplier
effect over a large area.
5) Insertion of special forces into
gas-producing regions that
have high concentrations of
sour-gas wells. We target the
easiest wells to blow and let the
clouds of sour gas flow into
surrounding areas causing
enourmous disruptions as the
hazardous and suffocating
hydrogen sulfide gas wafts into
populated areas.
6) Since many drinking reservoirs are
near heavily populated cities we dump
CO/CO2 reactants into them that cause
runaway production of massive clouds
of Carbon Monoxide gas that will flow
into the lowest regions of populated
areas.
Since the combatants and civilian
populations will tend to congregate
in bunkers or basements during our
bombardment, their shelters will turn
into their tombs as the clouds of
rapidly moving Carbon Monoxide gas
suffocates the inhabitants.
CO does not dissipate into the
atmosphere like CO2 would and forms
large concentrations that flow like
water. We would do this at night
when most inhabitants are asleep
in their basements or underground
shelters.
7) Specially produced microbes that eat
petroleum-based products such as
tires, rubber, plastic and even the
tar-based pavement of roads
would reduce their transportation
infrastructure into ruin.
These microbes ingest the
petroleum-based products and turn it
into alcohol and rapidly break down
the harder material into
a jelly-like substance.
These microbes have short 3 day shelf
lives and are now just coming onto
the market usually used for
environmental cleanup but in our case
it has significant military value.
We can currently produce about 100
tonnes per day which could destroy
about 1000 square km. We focus the
dumping of the hydrocarbon
fractioners onto only the most
valuable targets such as refineries
and foodstuff production systems.
8) Then for the coup-de-grace,
hundreds-of-thousands of tons
of Ethylene Glycol (simple
Anti-freeze) can be targeted
for dumping onto farms and
food-growing areas and into water
reservoirs. If the firestorms
doesn’t get the natives, the
starvation willafter we poison their
food and water supply which will
finish the job within 3 months.
The Ethylene Glycol will break down
in about two years, environmentally
it’s definitely not as bad as using
nuclear weapons.
In conclusion, we can completely bring
Iran to it’s knees without the use of
huge numebrs of land-forces, only
if we have gumption and ruthlessness
to do so using simple off-the-shelf,
commercially available supplies and
technology.
This scenario is but one of the many non-traditional modes of combat designed and simulated by our warfighters.
We know it works, we just have to use it and use it at full force with NO
holding back. They want a war,
let’s givem one they’ll NEVER forget!
Active Scenario
by
PowerSoldier One
Mmmhhhh… this is a serious case. But there are specialized doctors even for those cases.
BTW. Who told you “they” want war? War is spread in the ME by the US on
behalf of israel through a clique named Nero-Cons.
BTW. BTW.
“So if you want a war with Iran, you’d better fight an all-out-one like what
we did to Dresden except 200,000 times worse.”
You are definitely no soldier, otherwise you would not confuse war with murder. Or are these the US- rules of engagement by now.
J.
Nothing to wary about. The U.S will invade Iran and will be just another reginal war will soon be forgotten. China wants oil, and keep its interest in Iran’s oil, The U.S has a great interest in Chinas’ economy. Before any war take place The U.S will strike deals with China to ease its fears as well as deals with Russia, and let them know that their interest will stay no matter what government comes up in Iran. Even if Iran has nukes and even if the Iranians are willing to use them. The US will still attack, and Iran will lose and to everybody’s surprise very fast.
I deplore the idea of large scale indiscriminate murder as practised by Japan, Germany, the US and the UK in WW2. I also deplore the above suggestion to do the same.
Now to Jumpmaster’s question: “Who told you “they” want war?”. Do you listen to the speeches of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad? Perhaps you don’t understand Farsi but you could certainly read the English transcripts. He’s not seeking a peaceful world free of wars. He’s also not calling out for just the destruction of the Jews. He most definitely wants a huge, global war leading to the restoration of the Islamic empire. Or perhaps you think the Mossad/CIA/boogeyman are writing his speeches for him?
The US will invade Iran, and will spend a shitload of money… why?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_industry
the day the US invade Iran will be the beginning of end for it.Iran is no Iraq.American interest the world over will come under attack as Iran has diehard supporters who are ready to die for her.