Ron Paul Trumps in Last Night’s Debate

Ron Paul trumped in last night’s Republican Presidential Candidate Debate in New Hampshire.  His views on Iraq and freedom were shining beacons amidst the black smoke the other candidates emitted.

As the rest of the GOP hopefuls tighten their chains to the war wagon heading over a cliff, Paul’s views will propel him forward.

Every month that Paul remains in the race, he becomes more dangerous to the Establishment.

Ron Paul  is the Buster Douglas candidate.  Douglas was a 42 to 1 underdog when he fought undefeated Mike Tyson in 1990.  The experts thought that the only question was whether Tyson would knock him out in the first, second, or third round.

But Douglas fought tough from the first round.  In round ten, he caught Tyson with a flurry of punches that ended Iron Mike’s reign.

Here are some highlights from last night’s show
MR. GOLER: Congressman Paul, another gun issue for you if you will. You have
said that the 9/11 attackers might have had second thoughts if they’d felt that
some of the passengers aboard the airplanes would — might have been armed. We
have seen airplanes — airflights diverted because people heard Arabic on
planes, because they heard Muslims praying. What do you think it would do to the
travel industry of this country if passengers felt others were carrying guns
aboard, sir?
REP. PAUL: Well, first off, you’re quoting me incorrectly.
MR. GOLER: I’m sorry.
REP. PAUL: I said that responsibility for protecting passengers falls with the
airline, not the government, not the passengers. The airline’s responsible for
the aircraft and the passengers.
If we wouldn’t have been dependent on the federal government to set all the
rules, which meant no guns and no resistance, then the terrorists may well have
had second thoughts because the airlines would have had the responsibility. But
we assumed the government was going to take care of us.
After 9/11, instead of moving toward the direction of personal responsibility
and private property and Second Amendment, we moved in the opposite direction.
We turned it over to the federal government, and look at the mess we have now at
airports. I mean, the airlines — private industry protects their property all
the time. People who haul around money in armored trucks protect their — their
money all the time. But here is one example when the federal government was
involved and they messed it up. And if we put the responsibility on the right
people, respected the Second Amendment, I sincerely believe there would have
been a lot less chance of 9/11 ever happening. (Bell sounds.) (Cheers,
MR. WALLACE: Congressman Paul — (interrupted by cheers, applause) —
Congressman Paul, your position on the war is pretty simple: Get out. What
about, though, trying to minimize the bloodbath that would certainly occur if we
pull out in a hurry? What about protecting the thousands of Iraqis who have
staked their lives in backing the U.S.? And would you leave troops in the region
to take out any al Qaeda camps that are developed after we leave?
REP. PAUL: The people who say there will be a bloodbath are the ones who said it
would be a cakewalk, it would be slam dunk, and that it would be paid for by
oil. Why believe them? They’ve been wrong on everything they’ve said. Why not ask
the people — (interrupted by cheers) — why not ask the people who advise
not to go into the region and into the war? The war has not gone well one bit.
Yes, I would leave, I would leave completely. Why leave the troops in the
region? The fact that we had troops in Saudi Arabia was one of the three reasons
given for the attack on 9/11. So why leave them in the region? They don’t want
our troops on the Arabian Peninsula. We have no need for our national security
to have troops on the Arabian Peninsula, and going into Iraq and Afghanistan and
threatening Iran is the worst thing we can do for our national security.
I am less safe, the American people are less safe for this. It’s the policy that
is wrong. Tactical movements and shifting troops around and taking in 30 more
and reducing by five, totally irrelevant. We need a new foreign policy that said
we ought to mind our own business, bring our troops home, defend this country,

MR. WALLACE: So, Congressman Paul, and I’d like you to take 30 seconds to answer
this, you’re basically saying that we should take our marching orders from al
Qaeda? If they want us off the Arabian Peninsula, we should leave? (Laughter.)
REP. PAUL: No! (Cheers, applause.) I’m saying — (laughter) — I’m saying we
should take our marching orders from our Constitution. We should not go to war
— (cheers, applause) — we should not go to war without a declaration. We
should not go to war when it’s an aggressive war. This is an aggressive
invasion. We’ve committed the invasion of this war, and it’s illegal under
international law. That’s where I take my marching orders, not from any enemy.

On getting out of Iraq:
REP. PAUL: The American people didn’t go in. A few people advising this
administration, a small number of people called the neoconservative hijacked our
foreign policy. They’re responsible, not the American people. They’re not
responsible. We shouldn’t punish them. (Cheers, applause.)
MR. HUCKABEE: Congressman, we are one nation. We can’t be divided. We have to be
one nation under God. That means if we make a mistake, we make it as a single
country, the United States of America, not the divided states of America.
REP. PAUL: No. When we make a mistake — (interrupted by applause) — when we
make a mistake, it is the obligation of the people through their representatives
to correct the mistake, not to continue the mistake! (Cheers, applause.)

MR. WALLACE: Perhaps you can tell us. But if you get rid of the CIA, let alone
the FBI, how would President Paul have any idea, any intelligence of what our
enemies, foreign and domestic, are up to?
REP. PAUL: Well, you might ask a better question. Before 9/11, we were spending
$40 billion a year, and the FBI was producing numerous information about people
being trained on airplanes to fly on but not land in, and they totally ignored
them. So it’s the inefficiency of the bureaucracy that is the problem. So
increasing this with the Department of Homeland Security is spending more money,
doesn’t solve the problem. Yes, we have every right in the world to know
something about intelligence gathering, but we have to have intelligent people
interpreting this information. (Cheers, applause.)
But, you know, just going for increasing presidential powers, as has been
discussed, is rather disturbing to me. This whole idea that we’re supposed to
sacrifice liberty for security — we were advised against that. Don’t we
remember that when you sacrifice liberty for security, you lose both? That’s
what’s happening in this country today. (Cheers, applause.) We have a national
ID card on our doorstep. It’s being implemented right now. We have FISA courts,
we have warrantless searches, we’ve lost habeas corpus, we’ve had secret prisons
around the world, and we have torture going on. (Bell.) That’s un-American, and
we need to use the power of the presidency to get it back in order in order to
take care of us and protect this country and our liberties.


31 Responses to Ron Paul Trumps in Last Night’s Debate

  1. Richard in Austin September 6, 2007 at 10:14 am #

    Ron Paul ROCKED in the face of extreme bias, hostility and adversity! Thank you so much for posting the transcript, I haven’t seen the debate yet.
    Accept no substitutes, only Ron Paul will do.
    Of course, we need many more like him in Congress and in the judicial branch, we way too many statists in government.

  2. Alpowolf September 6, 2007 at 11:16 am #

    It was interesting to see how blatantly biased the Faux News crew was against Dr. Paul, and against liberty and peace.

    They even imitate Bush’s smirk.

  3. NH September 6, 2007 at 11:33 am #

    The more they try to marginalize Ron the more ardent and hard working his fans become. They are so scared of him they now have to shove Huckabee in our faces. We’re not buying it! Thanks James.

  4. Ron Moss September 6, 2007 at 11:50 am #

    Congress had not the power to delegate it’s duty to coin money and regulate the value thereof. Is that not clear?

  5. Mace Price September 6, 2007 at 12:59 pm #

    …Ron Paul has more brains in his ass than Sean Hannity has in his thick skull

  6. Chris S September 6, 2007 at 1:01 pm #

    It is clear, but the obvious strategy is that Paul is to be restricted to foreign policy and not talk about his domestic policies. The other Republicans have already started cherry picking Ron Paul’s positions, imagine if Paul were allowed to speak about his domestic stances? The international bankers certainly can’t have the Republican candidates echoing Paul’s “conspiracy theories”, like the one about how the socialist Federal Reserve System is nothing but a giant Ponzi scheme, or the one about Real ID and the coming police state, or that one about how the IRS is in the business of extortion.

    No, when it comes to taxation and monetary policy, the only establishment-approved dissent is to come from Huckabee, a Baptist Minister endorsing another tax scheme designed by Mormons to overthrow the IRS. Wonderful…

    Paul broke multiple taboos last night. He stated that Israel has nukes instead of the usual assumptions accompanied by pussyfooted sidestepping and giggling about the issue. He also criticized Saudi Arabia and its involvement in Iraq while being educated by a cheerleader in the post debate interview. Our good (i.e. backwards), moderate (fanatical), “Democracy (Slavery) Spreading” friends (~40% of the suicide bombers in Iraq) in the Kingdom (dictatorship) of Saudi Arabia.

    I guess Paul missed the Congressional Field Trip to Israel in August. Criticizing the Lobby at the start of their propaganda blitz, right when their war is in sight, tsk tsk, especially since AIPAC scratched the neocon’s back to give them their Iraq war, and now Israel wants BushCo to return the favor.

  7. Chris S September 6, 2007 at 1:03 pm #

    How dare Paul challenge the Mediaopoly

  8. Thomas September 6, 2007 at 1:23 pm #

    I watched every Ron Paul debate, and I agree with you; as a whole, this debate was the best. Ron Paul ROCKS!

  9. Tory September 6, 2007 at 1:43 pm #

    By Ron Paul:
    Surrender Should Not Be An Option

    Who Are The Patriots

    Saddam’s US Execution by Lew Rockwell

  10. James N September 6, 2007 at 2:20 pm #

    Ron has been around since the seventies and has always been upfront and honest. I think that America has been blessed having a man like Ron Paul running for president.

  11. Tory September 6, 2007 at 4:21 pm #

    He gets better and tougher with each debate.

  12. Martha Dervish September 6, 2007 at 6:46 pm #

    America is not used to hearing the plain truth the way Ron Paul delivers it. The other Republican candidates are pitiful zealots. I am voting for Obama but I love Ron Paul

  13. Marc September 6, 2007 at 8:34 pm #

    Thanks for posting the transcript! Ron Paul’s responses are like receiving a cool stimulating breeze while languishing in the fetid neocon/statist doldrums. I hope that he will be given the opportunity to alter course and steer the ship of state in the direction of more limited and constitutional government.

  14. Jim September 6, 2007 at 8:35 pm #

    Don’t know if he will ever get a chance to steer.

    But in the meantime, he is firing some great torpedos.

  15. Jesse James September 6, 2007 at 9:35 pm #

    The psychic elements of the Bush administration is governed by a vice like element that can only seed our demise. We have very little time and we must commit ourselves to Ron Paul who is the only politician not infected by the virus. A single antibody can produce miracles and that is Ron Paul. Save yourself while you can.

  16. R. Nelson September 7, 2007 at 4:07 am #

    Aaaa, where were all you Paulistas in ’88? Voting for Geo. H.W. Bush, that’s where. What took you johnnies-come-lately so long to figure it out?

  17. Jenkins September 7, 2007 at 8:21 am #

    I think Paul misspoke when he said he takes his marching orders from international law. I think he regrets it coming out of his mouth and maybe is hoping it won’t be used against him. Of course, it will.

  18. Thomas September 7, 2007 at 11:57 am #

    I believe Ron Paul says he gets his orders from the (US) Constitution, not international (UN) law. There is a BIG difference! Paul strongly believes in national sovereignty, and every year, Paul introduces a bill that will keep the US out of the UN, and vice versa (but it dies in committee).

  19. Dirk W. Sabin September 7, 2007 at 2:12 pm #

    That aint a mere immitation of the Bushsmirk, it’s a genetic duplication of it. Somewhere in the bowels (pardon the unfortunate pun) of that Faux Egypto-crypt known as the Skull and Bones He Man Woman Haters Club is a little assembly line creating Statist Factotums in multitudes. Utilizing State of the Art Eugenics, they’ve crossed the smirk of the Baptist Preacher with the Leer of the Adolescent Truant and grafted it upon the salaceous grin of the snake oil salesman and implanted it in all their seedy reptilian spawn. Go anywhere in the corridors of power and you will be confronted with this Hall Monitor Sneer of the Sunbeams for the Unitary Executive and it is nothing so much as a cover for either a profound lack of inductive reasoning or an unhealthy addiction to power. Thank God they’re beginning to eat their young like all good Reptiles.

    Ron Paul might be elected if we had a populace that actually thought citizenship was an honor and responsibility instead of group grope of have a nice day conviviality.

    Instead, we’ll likely watch as the Establishment pulls off another farce of an election while squeezing the cajones of the public and telling them what hearty rebels they are.

    The press/media is so deluded by their cozy little tryst with Politics that they have yet to recognize how many papers they’d sell and Nelson Rating jumps they would get if Ron Paul would get elected. That wonderful smorgasborde of Fear and Lust would go into hyperdrive if Paul was elected and the Federal Government , as we know and have come to loathe it was put plainly in the sights of a well-aimed pink slip. In this unlikely event, the News Business would be awash in viewers.

    After such a long stint of never hearing anything real emerge from the mouths of our politicians, it will take a while for the good sense and intelligence of Mr. Paul to sink in.
    If and when it does, we may just redeem ourselves.

  20. Von Rex September 7, 2007 at 3:47 pm #

    Seems to me that the other Republicans are taking their marching orders from Al Queda, since they are the ones basing their policies on Al Queda’s reactions.

    Amazing to hear a Republican make sense, to give proper value to reason, history, and evidence. I had given up on the GOP ever being rational again. Even if Paul doesn’t win, I hope his supporters get a lot more active within the GOP. Take it over. It will be good for everyone on the planet.

  21. Tom Blanton September 7, 2007 at 10:04 pm #

    Poor Dr. Paul must feel like he is Alice in some sort of Saranic Wonderland. Thankfully, there were a good number of cheering audience members.

    It is hard to believe how twisted Chris Wallace and Sean Hannity really are and Ghouliani Nosferatu’s grimace is unnerving – this man needs to return to his crypt.

  22. Tom Blanton September 7, 2007 at 10:05 pm #

    That would be Satanic Wonderland.

    Geeez, what a bunch of sick bastards all gathered on one stage.

  23. Jim September 7, 2007 at 10:14 pm #

    Kinda makes it hard to retain faith in the possiblity of redemption.

    It will be tricky for the media to put any of the other candidates on a pedestal…

  24. Dar Scott September 8, 2007 at 1:39 pm #

    “We have a national ID on our doorsteps.”

    The national ID might grow out of an ID for aliens. In the same debate Huckabee called for automated tacking of aliens. Perhaps, the national ID would be RFID and could not be removed. The tracking feature might require a lot of infrastructure.

  25. Jean September 9, 2007 at 4:36 pm #

    I agree with the media preoccupation with Dr. Paul’s views on international issues, and they marginalize his views domestic. Chris Wallace should get a ass whipping from his father. He tried to disgrace Dr. Paul with his view of getting rid of the IRS and equating that with getting rid of the CIA? Well, we only have 15 intelligence agencies running around, and all of them couldn’t prevent 9/11? What a better reason to get rid of them.
    But the thing that gets me with the media, and refusing to get Dr. Paul’s views on domestic issue is on health care.
    They haven’t asked this candidate a question about health care, and he’s a freakin doctor for Christ sake.

  26. Ryan September 10, 2007 at 7:54 pm #


    Dr. Paul was on Bill O’Reilly’s show tonight. Bill was his usual obnoxious self, employing his favorite technique of argument. That is to say attempting to win it by getting loud and trying to talk over the person.

    When Paul tried to give him some historical background Bill replied back with “I don’t have time for a history lesson.”

    That is the problem with people like him and the biggest fool on tv and the radio, Sean Hannity. They never learned history and wind up repeating it.

    Paul conducted himself with his usual dignity and intelligence.

  27. Tory September 11, 2007 at 8:00 am #

    The first order of business:

    Stop. I’m not done answering your question, and I’m not going to answer another until I am. Lower your volume or I’m leaving.

    I’m not giving you an hour to answer a simple question. Then don’t ask me questions that will require lengthy answers. You either know what you’re doing or you don’t. And if you get loud or can’t behave civilized I’m leaving.

  28. Ryan September 11, 2007 at 8:08 pm #


    Bill says he got a lot of mail about Dr. Paul. He didn’t say whether or not most of it got on to him for making an ass out of himself. One writer upbraided him for his rude behavior towards Paul by his interruptions and trying to talk over him. Billo’s response was that the congressman wouldn’t give a direct answer to the question and tried dodging it. As for trying to talk over him Billo says he wasn’t doing that and the writer must be a cockerspaniel to have heard that. I regret he didn’t read my letter based on the post above.

    As sanctimoneous as Keith Obermann is, I hope he continues to give O’Reilly hell.

  29. Tory September 28, 2007 at 3:51 pm #

    Ron is excellent – O’Reilly is tough, and when you hold him off or beat him you can look good.

    O’Reilly was tough on Bush (he stomped Bush.)

    Here they are squaring off; and few are ever ready for Bill O’Reilly.

    Rosie O’Donnell claimed she got diarhea before the show, out of fear (so Bill went easy on her.)


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